Oklahoma orders schools to teach Bible 'immediately'

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29 Jun 2024, 8:13 pm

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I think that the Bible is well worth reading and studying--it is very entertaining (loads of sex and violence), plus no other book has had a greater impact on the history of Western Civilization.

But, I suspect that Oklahoma schools would insist on an evangelical spin.


I mean reading the bible was part of the reason I stopped being a Christian, like the bible makes for a good horrific fairy tale I suppose...but there is so much messed up stuff in it there is no way it should be a guide of morals and values. It would be like claiming Game of Thrones is a good example of how things should work.

Like yes sex and violence, and rape, selling of daughters to their rapist, being willing to kill their own child, women raping their father to make a baby, Jesus saving a woman from being stoned to death for being a prostitute, God killing tons of innocent civilians at times. Really a lot of stuff that seems inappropriate to expose young children to. Also telling girls their periods and biological functions are punishment for eve eating an apple, I can say it feels better knowing it is just an unfair biological function from evolution and has nothing to do with the damn apple.


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29 Jun 2024, 8:26 pm

I was telling Double Retired in another thread that Neurotypicals have a tolerance for ambiguity as it helps serve a purpose. In that respect the bible is "fit for purpose", despite it's obvious ambiguous and "open to interpretation" scriptures.



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29 Jun 2024, 9:19 pm

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They're still calling The Bible a history book? It is a religious doctrine centered around fairy tales and mythos at best.


It's also a pretty violent book to boot. Just way too much hypocrisy for me.



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03 Jul 2024, 5:41 am

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Oklahoma's top education official has ordered schools in the state to begin incorporating the Bible into lessons, in the latest US cultural flashpoint over religion in the classroom.

A directive sent by Republican state Superintendent Ryan Walters said the rule was compulsory, requiring "immediate and strict compliance".

The rule will apply to lessons for all public school students aged from around 11-18.

It comes a week after Louisiana's governor signed a law directing all public schools in that state to display the Ten Commandments.

In a statement on Thursday, Mr Walters described the Bible as "an indispensable historical and cultural touchstone".
"Without basic knowledge of it, Oklahoma students are unable to properly contextualize the foundation of our nation, which is why Oklahoma educational standards provide for its instruction," he added.

Mr Walters, a former public school history teacher, was elected to his post in 2022 after campaigning on a platform of combating "woke ideology" and eliminating "radical leftists" from Oklahoma's education system.
His announcement, which covers grades five to 12, drew criticism from civil rights organisations and groups that advocate for a strict separation of church and state.

"Public schools are not Sunday schools," Rachel Laser, head of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, said in a statement quoted by AP news agency.

"This is textbook Christian Nationalism: Walters is abusing the power of his public office to impose his religious beliefs on everyone else's children. Not on our watch," she added.

Mr Walters has previously argued that secularists in the US have created a state religion out of atheism, by driving faith away from the public square.

In an op-ed last year for Fox News, he wrote that US President Joe Biden and the teacher unions had supplanted biblical values with "woke, anti-education values that tell students that they should treat their classmates differently depending on their race and sex and that they should be taught graphic sexual content at a young of an age as possible".

In a statement, the Interfaith Alliance - a US group that seeks to protect religious freedoms - called the Oklahoma superintendent's directive "blatant religious coercion".

“True religious freedom means ensuring that no one religious group is allowed to impose their viewpoint on all Americans," the statement added.

It comes a week after Louisiana ordered all classrooms up to university level in the state to display a poster of the Ten Commandments.

Days later, nine families in the state sued Louisiana, marking the start of what some expect will be a protracted legal battle.

The complaint, backed by civil rights groups, argues that such a display violates the First Amendment of the US Constitution, which guarantees freedom of religion, and that the display "pressures" students into adopting the state's favoured religion.

There have previously been legal battles over the display of the Ten Commandments in public buildings, including in courts, police stations and schools.

In 1980, in the case Stone v Graham, the Supreme Court struck down a Kentucky law requiring that the document be displayed in elementary and high schools. This precedent has been cited by groups contesting the Louisiana law.

In its ruling, the Supreme Court said the requirement "had no secular legislative purpose" and was "plainly religious in nature" - noting that the commandments made references to worshipping God.


I demand that the Koran and the Satanic Bible be put in Oklahoma public schools as long as the Bible is in them in Oklahoma.I want the Koran and the Satanic Bible to be part of classroom instruction in Oklahoma as long as the Bible is.



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03 Jul 2024, 7:55 am

I'm a Christian, but this Christian nationalism stuff is scaring me. I don't want to live in anybody's theocracy, even if it is the same faith as me. The thing is that every religion and every denomination and heck, even every person has their own issues that they find so morally wrong that they think it should be illegal. I think these people will end up regretting their theocracy.



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25 Aug 2024, 12:35 pm

Could this be the start of the end?



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25 Aug 2024, 3:15 pm

Religious education in my high school at least paid lip service to other faiths. (Although I note the conspicuous absence of Satanism)
It looks like the USA right not only like wagging the dog, but also wagging the god.



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25 Aug 2024, 6:14 pm

Headline: Oklahoma teachers were told to use the Bible.  There’s resistance from schools as students return

Oklahoma’s Bixby school district has lots to show off for a fast-growing Tulsa suburb . . . what the district does not have as students returned this week is a Bible in every classroom -- despite a statewide mandate from Oklahoma’s education chief to incorporate Bible lessons and promises of repercussions for those that don’t comply. Other large school districts have also publicly indicated they aren’t making changes either.

The resistance follows a summer order that propelled Oklahoma to the center of a growing push by conservatives to give religion a bigger role in public schools across the U.S.
[as] Republicans advance similar efforts to incorporate the Bible into classrooms.

If there is no curricular standard that ties with that particular classroom, what would be the purpose of a Bible if not for pure indoctrination?



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27 Aug 2024, 12:46 pm

I'm Christian, but I know religion has no place in school, unless it's a church school.


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