Coping with being undateable.

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Escape1894
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07 May 2025, 2:10 pm

Hello everyone. I was wondering if anybody could tell me what are some ways to cope with me being forever single. Now before anyone says I won’t be, let me tell you about me. I’m 30, man, autistic, universally ugly to women, women repellent, never been flirted with, never been on a date, still a KHHV. With all of this, I’m also a pessimistic, overthinker, negative Nancy, Debbie downer, etc.

I had followed the dating advice and became the best version of myself from a dating standpoint. It didn’t matter. Women were repulsed by me and I’ve even creeped out some by accident. After all of that, I relaized that I’m just undateable to women.

Respectfully please don’t tell me to be happy or go to therapy. I’m not happy that I’m being forced this life. I didn’t sign up for this. I wanted to experience the same things that everybody else around me was/has experienced. Yep every other man around has experienced stuff like this but me. I’m the only one man in my circle to never experience it. This whole thing has left me very very bitter. Something that therapy can not fix.


So what are the best ways.

Sidenote: If this needs to go to Haven, please do so Mods



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07 May 2025, 5:31 pm

Women experience this all the time too. You are not the only one.

And yes, it is possible to learn and make changes that others will appreciate so that it doesn't have to be a lifetime situation.

Finally, developing friendships -- real friendships, not looking for anything romantic or physical -- is a wonderful thing.


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07 May 2025, 5:43 pm

Escape1894 wrote:
I had followed the dating advice and became the best version of myself from a dating standpoint. It didn’t matter. Women were repulsed by me and I’ve even creeped out some by accident. After all of that, I relaized that I’m just undateable to women.


try redirection. take your mind off dating altogether and work on other things you want to do? hobbies, projects or volunteering, anything, even spend more time enjoying yourself.
the busier you keep yourself the less time you have to ruminate over what other people may/may not think about you.



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07 May 2025, 5:49 pm

Escape1894 wrote:
Hello everyone. I was wondering if anybody could tell me what are some ways to cope with me being forever single. Now before anyone says I won’t be, let me tell you about me. I’m 30, man, autistic, universally ugly to women, women repellent, never been flirted with, never been on a date, still a KHHV. With all of this, I’m also a pessimistic, overthinker, negative Nancy, Debbie downer, etc.

I had followed the dating advice and became the best version of myself from a dating standpoint. It didn’t matter. Women were repulsed by me and I’ve even creeped out some by accident. After all of that, I relaized that I’m just undateable to women.

Respectfully please don’t tell me to be happy or go to therapy. I’m not happy that I’m being forced this life. I didn’t sign up for this. I wanted to experience the same things that everybody else around me was/has experienced. Yep every other man around has experienced stuff like this but me. I’m the only one man in my circle to never experience it. This whole thing has left me very very bitter. Something that therapy can not fix.


So what are the best ways.

Sidenote: If this needs to go to Haven, please do so Mods


Could it be possible that there was a woman interested in you but she wasn't your type so you turned her down? Things like that happen both ways.

Heck, I might even be interested. As long as you're also childfree then you're good to go



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07 May 2025, 7:03 pm

The simplest observation I can offer is as follows: Life doesn't care. Specifically, it doesn't care about our perspectives of ourselves and what we deem to possible or impossible. You could well be right about being undateable, or life hasn't proven you wrong yet. I never expected to find someone and was resigned to being alone, but someone found me. I may be back in that lonesome place because of life, but life is what departed me from it to begin with.



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07 May 2025, 9:31 pm

I'm so sorry you're feeling this way. When I was your age I was in the same situation, and I remember how terrible it felt. I know you don't really want any positive messages, but life isn't static. It won't always feel this way. You're also not alone. There are a lot of people here who understand how you're feeling, because we were there once or still are.

I 100% agree with Cyberdora. Redirection is going to be the best method to try and get your mind off of it. That's what I used to do when I was 30 and felt like nobody would ever want me: I'd distract myself from it. Picking up hobbies, or projects is an excellent idea. I used to volunteer at a foodbank (technically I still do, but we're talking about then). The good thing about volunteering is that it can make you feel good as well as distract you. Volunteering or joining a hobby group can also help you make new friends.

I hope things work out for you better than you ever expected :heart:



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12 May 2025, 1:21 pm

ChicagoLiz wrote:
Women experience this all the time too. You are not the only one.

And yes, it is possible to learn and make changes that others will appreciate so that it doesn't have to be a lifetime situation.

Finally, developing friendships -- real friendships, not looking for anything romantic or physical -- is a wonderful thing.

Unfortunately for me, the things I listed about me are apart of my personality. I can’t change my personality. So with this, women will never want to be with me. I understand and get why they don’t but I will always be very bitter about it though.



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12 May 2025, 1:30 pm

Coilette_91 wrote:
Escape1894 wrote:
Hello everyone. I was wondering if anybody could tell me what are some ways to cope with me being forever single. Now before anyone says I won’t be, let me tell you about me. I’m 30, man, autistic, universally ugly to women, women repellent, never been flirted with, never been on a date, still a KHHV. With all of this, I’m also a pessimistic, overthinker, negative Nancy, Debbie downer, etc.

I had followed the dating advice and became the best version of myself from a dating standpoint. It didn’t matter. Women were repulsed by me and I’ve even creeped out some by accident. After all of that, I relaized that I’m just undateable to women.

Respectfully please don’t tell me to be happy or go to therapy. I’m not happy that I’m being forced this life. I didn’t sign up for this. I wanted to experience the same things that everybody else around me was/has experienced. Yep every other man around has experienced stuff like this but me. I’m the only one man in my circle to never experience it. This whole thing has left me very very bitter. Something that therapy can not fix.


So what are the best ways.

Sidenote: If this needs to go to Haven, please do so Mods


Could it be possible that there was a woman interested in you but she wasn't your type so you turned her down? Things like that happen both ways.

Heck, I might even be interested. As long as you're also childfree then you're good to go


No it’s not possible. I’ve seen women flirt with other guys before. Of course the flirting was different for each woman but I was able to pick up on them doing so. Shoot I’ve even helped others realize that they were being flirted on. But with me, nothing. That’s why I said I’m universally ugly.

I highly doubt you would. I’ve listed some major red flags about me that would have every woman run away before I say hi to them.



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12 May 2025, 1:44 pm

cyberdora wrote:
Escape1894 wrote:
I had followed the dating advice and became the best version of myself from a dating standpoint. It didn’t matter. Women were repulsed by me and I’ve even creeped out some by accident. After all of that, I relaized that I’m just undateable to women.


try redirection. take your mind off dating altogether and work on other things you want to do? hobbies, projects or volunteering, anything, even spend more time enjoying yourself.
the busier you keep yourself the less time you have to ruminate over what other people may/may not think about you.

I did that for a very very long time (as far redirection goes). In the end, it resulted in other guys around me having someone be interested in them except me. I was left wondering when I might experiences those things. Turns out it was actually if instead of when I experience those things. I finally broke off of that when I saw someone who’s a legit worse person than me find a GF and still has it to this day. My desires for this are too strong and since I can’t never have it, all I have is bitterness.



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12 May 2025, 2:06 pm

Escape1894 wrote:
Coilette_91 wrote:
Escape1894 wrote:
Hello everyone. I was wondering if anybody could tell me what are some ways to cope with me being forever single. Now before anyone says I won’t be, let me tell you about me. I’m 30, man, autistic, universally ugly to women, women repellent, never been flirted with, never been on a date, still a KHHV. With all of this, I’m also a pessimistic, overthinker, negative Nancy, Debbie downer, etc.

I had followed the dating advice and became the best version of myself from a dating standpoint. It didn’t matter. Women were repulsed by me and I’ve even creeped out some by accident. After all of that, I relaized that I’m just undateable to women.

Respectfully please don’t tell me to be happy or go to therapy. I’m not happy that I’m being forced this life. I didn’t sign up for this. I wanted to experience the same things that everybody else around me was/has experienced. Yep every other man around has experienced stuff like this but me. I’m the only one man in my circle to never experience it. This whole thing has left me very very bitter. Something that therapy can not fix.


So what are the best ways.

Sidenote: If this needs to go to Haven, please do so Mods


Could it be possible that there was a woman interested in you but she wasn't your type so you turned her down? Things like that happen both ways.

Heck, I might even be interested. As long as you're also childfree then you're good to go


No it’s not possible. I’ve seen women flirt with other guys before. Of course the flirting was different for each woman but I was able to pick up on them doing so. Shoot I’ve even helped others realize that they were being flirted on. But with me, nothing. That’s why I said I’m universally ugly.

I highly doubt you would. I’ve listed some major red flags about me that would have every woman run away before I say hi to them.


I already saw the supposed red flags, they aren't all red flags to me. You never know, we might actually hit it off.



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12 May 2025, 2:11 pm

Coilette_91 wrote:
Heck, I might even be interested.


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No it’s not possible.


I think I might have found your problem...


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12 May 2025, 2:44 pm

30 years old is still young. There is hope for you yet.



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12 May 2025, 3:28 pm

DuckHairback wrote:
Coilette_91 wrote:
Heck, I might even be interested.


Escape1894 wrote:
No it’s not possible.


I think I might have found your problem...

I mean I did say I have a bad personality that I can't change and understood why I'm seen as being undateable to women.
However even with this, I'm still bitter that I'll never experience it even though I have a desire to do so.



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12 May 2025, 3:44 pm

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30 years old is still young. There is hope for you yet.


It is from an overall life perspective but it’s unusual for someone to be 30+ and have no experience. Most people get them in their late teens to 20’s.



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12 May 2025, 3:45 pm

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I already saw the supposed red flags, they aren't all red flags to me. You never know, we might actually hit it off.


If you say so.