Could these traits suggest mild autism or Asperger’s??

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21 Jun 2025, 11:58 am

Hi everyone,

I’m in a relationship with someone whose behavior has made me curious for a while now. I’m wondering if some of what I’m noticing might align with high-functioning autism or Asperger’s — though I’m not trying to label or diagnose, just looking for some insight from people who might recognize these traits or have personal experience.

Here are some patterns I’ve observed:

He doesn’t believe in comforting others unless there’s something concrete he can do. To him, words of encouragement feel pointless if they don’t fix the problem.

He generally avoids socializing and finds it exhausting or pointless, unless there's a clear benefit or obligation. That said, when he does engage, he can be extremely polite, warm, and even charming — which is part of what drew me to him at first.

He avoids eye contact with strangers and chooses seats in public where he won’t face people directly.

He’s highly sensitive to smells — some cause nausea or discomfort.

He always wears headphones and listens to music, even for short walks alone.

He’s very rule-oriented — even in romantic relationships. Everything is seen as two-sided and contractual, with clear expectations and fairness.

He doesn’t really connect with poetry, and seems confused by figurative or abstract expressions. He tends to take things literally, and if I say something vaguely or casually, he gets frustrated.

Certain sounds, like two fabrics rubbing together, really bother him.

Unless I explicitly ask him to do something, he won’t intuitively offer help — even if it seems obvious between close partners. And even if he helps once, I have to ask again next time for similar tasks.

His facial expressions can seem flat when everyone’s laughing. Then suddenly he might laugh, then go back to neutral within a second — almost like switching masks.

He doesn’t seem to have a strong sense of personal identity — many of his views and habits feel like copies of his parents.

He strongly dislikes being touched by strangers in public, and even in private, he has a fixed “quota” for physical affection like hugging.

He’s obsessed with cleanliness and is even sensitive to dust in the air.

At the same time, he’s emotionally very sharp — especially with me. He can tell how I’m feeling just from my face or tone. He’s honest, caring, and sometimes much better at expressing his emotions than I am. So sometimes I wonder: if this were autism, how can he be so emotionally perceptive?

I’m not trying to label him, but I’d really appreciate hearing if any of this sounds familiar or resonates with your own experience. Thanks in advance.



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21 Jun 2025, 12:14 pm

Does he struggle with any of this


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21 Jun 2025, 12:25 pm

babybird wrote:
Does he struggle with any of this

Thanks for your reply.
These behaviors I've noticed over almost 2 years in different situations, and we've had many problems and arguments because of them. At one point, I thought he might be narcissistic and even considered breaking up.

But when I talk to him, I feel like he interprets things very differently from his own perspective. After doing some reading, I started to suspect that he might have Asperger’s.

I want to be more certain before I talk to him about it, but I feel very anxious about how to approach the subject.

If it really is Asperger’s, I believe we can work much better on our relationship because we'll understand the root causes of our conflicts.



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21 Jun 2025, 12:47 pm

You sound like you want to help to understand him rather than fix him and that's really cool

I'm sorry your relationship has been under pressure

I hope you can get the answers you're looking for

I mean it's difficult to know but the traits could lead to asperger syndrome or it could just be him

Sorry I can't be of any more help than that


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21 Jun 2025, 1:10 pm

babybird wrote:
You sound like you want to help to understand him rather than fix him and that's really cool

I'm sorry your relationship has been under pressure

I hope you can get the answers you're looking for

I mean it's difficult to know but the traits could lead to asperger syndrome or it could just be him

Sorry I can't be of any more help than that


Thank you so much
that really means a lot.
Yes, exactly. I don’t want to “fix” him, just understand him better.
It’s been tough sometimes, but he’s also a really good person, and I want to do right by him and by us.

I totally get that it’s hard to say for sure, and I appreciate your thoughtful reply.
Thanks again



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22 Jun 2025, 11:22 am

It seems that some of those are Asperger's. But ADHD can present itself in those sorts of ways too. You don't have to be the loud life and soul of the party type to have ADHD, in fact a lot of ADHDers can have social anxiety and avoid social situations.

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At the same time, he’s emotionally very sharp — especially with me. He can tell how I’m feeling just from my face or tone. He’s honest, caring, and sometimes much better at expressing his emotions than I am. So sometimes I wonder: if this were autism, how can he be so emotionally perceptive?


I can understand my own and other's emotions very easily and I'm good at expressing my emotions and noticing them in others too, so that is where I often question my diagnosis too. I'm a good communicator as well, and I'm always reading that the biggest challenge Aspies face in relationships is communication and expressing emotions. But I have none of these. Communication and expressing emotions feels so natural to me. It's why my mum used to worry about my brother more than she did me, even though she loved us both the same of course, but because my brother was less expressive of his emotions while I was constantly expressive of mine, my mum panicked at the thought of not knowing what my brother was thinking or feeling, and people like that are more likely to take their own lives or do other strange things. While my constant expression of emotions was exhausting for her, at least she knew exactly how I was feeling at all times and so knew my intentions.

Sorry, a bit off-topic there. I am more ADHD than ASD, so that might explain why I'm not really typical with ASD. But it doesn't sound like your partner has both ADHD and ASD.

A lot of people seem to be like your partner; have autism traits but aren't quite autistic. But since they've very cleverly removed PPD-NOS and BAP from the autism diagnostic criteria, it's very hard to understand where these types of people lay. :scratch:


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22 Jun 2025, 1:36 pm

BlueCat__7987 wrote:
Hi everyone,

I’m in a relationship with someone whose behavior has made me curious for a while now. I’m wondering if some of what I’m noticing might align with high-functioning autism or Asperger’s — though I’m not trying to label or diagnose, just looking for some insight from people who might recognize these traits or have personal experience.

Here are some patterns I’ve observed:

He doesn’t believe in comforting others unless there’s something concrete he can do. To him, words of encouragement feel pointless if they don’t fix the problem.

He generally avoids socializing and finds it exhausting or pointless, unless there's a clear benefit or obligation. That said, when he does engage, he can be extremely polite, warm, and even charming — which is part of what drew me to him at first.

He avoids eye contact with strangers and chooses seats in public where he won’t face people directly.

He’s highly sensitive to smells — some cause nausea or discomfort.

He always wears headphones and listens to music, even for short walks alone.

He’s very rule-oriented — even in romantic relationships. Everything is seen as two-sided and contractual, with clear expectations and fairness.

He doesn’t really connect with poetry, and seems confused by figurative or abstract expressions. He tends to take things literally, and if I say something vaguely or casually, he gets frustrated.

Certain sounds, like two fabrics rubbing together, really bother him.

Unless I explicitly ask him to do something, he won’t intuitively offer help — even if it seems obvious between close partners. And even if he helps once, I have to ask again next time for similar tasks.

His facial expressions can seem flat when everyone’s laughing. Then suddenly he might laugh, then go back to neutral within a second — almost like switching masks.

He doesn’t seem to have a strong sense of personal identity — many of his views and habits feel like copies of his parents.

He strongly dislikes being touched by strangers in public, and even in private, he has a fixed “quota” for physical affection like hugging.

He’s obsessed with cleanliness and is even sensitive to dust in the air.

At the same time, he’s emotionally very sharp — especially with me. He can tell how I’m feeling just from my face or tone. He’s honest, caring, and sometimes much better at expressing his emotions than I am. So sometimes I wonder: if this were autism, how can he be so emotionally perceptive?

I’m not trying to label him, but I’d really appreciate hearing if any of this sounds familiar or resonates with your own experience. Thanks in advance.



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22 Jun 2025, 4:28 pm

You're not supposed to call it Asperger's anymore because Hans Asperger was a Nazi. I was diagnosed with Asperger's in 2001 when it was still acceptable, but now I usually refer to it as ASD.

I don't like the phrase "mild autism", at all and really hate the phrase "high functioning autism". I've joked that I'm more spicy than mild, but then I heard someone refer to themselves as "neurospicy", which sounded cringy and as if the person is faking.

Also it's acceptable to drink Fanta and drive a Volkswagen, which were both invented by Nazis.

I'm sorry that doesn't answer any of your questions, this is just my way of "relating" to other people.



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22 Jun 2025, 5:39 pm

① Perhaps you could hint at the discussion by comparing him to successful people on the Autism Spectrum?
Have you asked him about successful people on the Autism Spectrum?

② Have you tried taking AQ on his behalf? (Answering questions the way you think he should.)
Perhaps ask him to take AQ?

P.S. Not all Autistics know they are Autistic. I did not even suspect I might be Autistic until I was 64.


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That all sounds very familiar to my lived experience.

I was diagnosed autistic two years ago, at age 29/30. If I were diagnosed prior to 2013, I would have been diagnosed with Asperger's, but the DSM V that came out in 2013 combined Aspergers (and other autism-related diagnoses) into Autism Spectrum Disorder.

It is very possible to have Asperger's or HFA (high functioning autism) and not know it. I denied the possibility for years, even though multiple people told me I could be on the spectrum. It is also possible to learn to mimic social skills from others. It doesn't come innately to us, but in many cases we can learn.


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Tamaya wrote:
It seems that some of those are Asperger's. But ADHD can present itself in those sorts of ways too. You don't have to be the loud life and soul of the party type to have ADHD, in fact a lot of ADHDers can have social anxiety and avoid social situations.

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At the same time, he’s emotionally very sharp — especially with me. He can tell how I’m feeling just from my face or tone. He’s honest, caring, and sometimes much better at expressing his emotions than I am. So sometimes I wonder: if this were autism, how can he be so emotionally perceptive?


I can understand my own and other's emotions very easily and I'm good at expressing my emotions and noticing them in others too, so that is where I often question my diagnosis too. I'm a good communicator as well, and I'm always reading that the biggest challenge Aspies face in relationships is communication and expressing emotions. But I have none of these. Communication and expressing emotions feels so natural to me. It's why my mum used to worry about my brother more than she did me, even though she loved us both the same of course, but because my brother was less expressive of his emotions while I was constantly expressive of mine, my mum panicked at the thought of not knowing what my brother was thinking or feeling, and people like that are more likely to take their own lives or do other strange things. While my constant expression of emotions was exhausting for her, at least she knew exactly how I was feeling at all times and so knew my intentions.

Sorry, a bit off-topic there. I am more ADHD than ASD, so that might explain why I'm not really typical with ASD. But it doesn't sound like your partner has both ADHD and ASD.

A lot of people seem to be like your partner; have autism traits but aren't quite autistic. But since they've very cleverly removed PPD-NOS and BAP from the autism diagnostic criteria, it's very hard to understand where these types of people lay. :scratch:




Thank you so much for sharing your experience in such detail, it really helped me feel more grounded and less alone.

With my partner, one of the things I’ve struggled with is how difficult it is for him to talk about himself — his feelings, his thoughts, even just how his day went. He often says it feels pointless to talk about those things. Even with his family, he rarely shares anything, and it takes a lot of effort to get him to open up.

For example, even when he talks to me about something he enjoys (like a song he likes) I can sense a lot of anxiety, like he’s afraid to reveal his inner world. I usually have to reassure him a lot, let him know that it’s safe and okay to share. That’s why I feel like there’s a real block there, and I wonder if it’s connected to some kind of neurodivergence.



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BlueCat__7987 wrote:
Hi everyone,

I’m in a relationship with someone whose behavior has made me curious for a while now. I’m wondering if some of what I’m noticing might align with high-functioning autism or Asperger’s — though I’m not trying to label or diagnose, just looking for some insight from people who might recognize these traits or have personal experience.

Here are some patterns I’ve observed:

He doesn’t believe in comforting others unless there’s something concrete he can do. To him, words of encouragement feel pointless if they don’t fix the problem.

He generally avoids socializing and finds it exhausting or pointless, unless there's a clear benefit or obligation. That said, when he does engage, he can be extremely polite, warm, and even charming — which is part of what drew me to him at first.

He avoids eye contact with strangers and chooses seats in public where he won’t face people directly.

He’s highly sensitive to smells — some cause nausea or discomfort.

He always wears headphones and listens to music, even for short walks alone.

He’s very rule-oriented — even in romantic relationships. Everything is seen as two-sided and contractual, with clear expectations and fairness.

He doesn’t really connect with poetry, and seems confused by figurative or abstract expressions. He tends to take things literally, and if I say something vaguely or casually, he gets frustrated.

Certain sounds, like two fabrics rubbing together, really bother him.

Unless I explicitly ask him to do something, he won’t intuitively offer help — even if it seems obvious between close partners. And even if he helps once, I have to ask again next time for similar tasks.

His facial expressions can seem flat when everyone’s laughing. Then suddenly he might laugh, then go back to neutral within a second — almost like switching masks.

He doesn’t seem to have a strong sense of personal identity — many of his views and habits feel like copies of his parents.

He strongly dislikes being touched by strangers in public, and even in private, he has a fixed “quota” for physical affection like hugging.

He’s obsessed with cleanliness and is even sensitive to dust in the air.

At the same time, he’s emotionally very sharp — especially with me. He can tell how I’m feeling just from my face or tone. He’s honest, caring, and sometimes much better at expressing his emotions than I am. So sometimes I wonder: if this were autism, how can he be so emotionally perceptive?

I’m not trying to label him, but I’d really appreciate hearing if any of this sounds familiar or resonates with your own experience. Thanks in advance.



Sounds like it.




Thank you.
Given that he’s almost 30 and has never been diagnosed, I’m struggling with how to bring up this idea without upsetting him. I want to encourage him to consider getting evaluated — not because I think something is “wrong” with him, but because I believe understanding himself better could actually help both him and us.

Any advice on how to approach this gently would be deeply appreciated.



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You're not supposed to call it Asperger's anymore because Hans Asperger was a Nazi. I was diagnosed with Asperger's in 2001 when it was still acceptable, but now I usually refer to it as ASD.

I don't like the phrase "mild autism", at all and really hate the phrase "high functioning autism". I've joked that I'm more spicy than mild, but then I heard someone refer to themselves as "neurospicy", which sounded cringy and as if the person is faking.

Also it's acceptable to drink Fanta and drive a Volkswagen, which were both invented by Nazis.

I'm sorry that doesn't answer any of your questions, this is just my way of "relating" to other people.



Thanks so much for sharing this, honestly, I didn’t know the history behind the term Asperger’s, so I really appreciate you bringing that up. I’ve seen both ASD and Asperger’s used and I’m still learning how to talk about these things respectfully and accurately, so this helps a lot.

Also, I love your sense of humor and the way you connect, it made me smile. :heart: :D
And even if it didn’t directly answer my question, it still gave me a new perspective. So thank you



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① Perhaps you could hint at the discussion by comparing him to successful people on the Autism Spectrum?
Have you asked him about successful people on the Autism Spectrum?

② Have you tried taking AQ on his behalf? (Answering questions the way you think he should.)
Perhaps ask him to take AQ?

P.S. Not all Autistics know they are Autistic. I did not even suspect I might be Autistic until I was 64.



Thank you, your suggestions were really thoughtful and helpful.


I’ve actually thought about the AQ test and even tried answering it in my head based on what I know about him. The results made me even more curious, but I haven’t brought it up with him yet. I’m worried he might feel judged or misunderstood.

To be honest, he’s never been diagnosed — and I don’t even know if he’s ever suspected anything himself. He’s currently doing his PhD at one of the top universities and is really successful in what he does. That’s also why it’s a bit hard for me to bring up this topic — I’m afraid he might think I’m pathologizing something that he sees as totally normal for himself.

Still, I keep thinking that if we could talk about it, maybe it would help us better understand the root of some of the challenges we’ve faced in our relationship — and grow through them together.
I just don’t want to hurt him or make him feel like I’m trying to put a label on him.

Do you have any advice on how I might approach the conversation in a kind and respectful way?



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That all sounds very familiar to my lived experience.

I was diagnosed autistic two years ago, at age 29/30. If I were diagnosed prior to 2013, I would have been diagnosed with Asperger's, but the DSM V that came out in 2013 combined Aspergers (and other autism-related diagnoses) into Autism Spectrum Disorder.

It is very possible to have Asperger's or HFA (high functioning autism) and not know it. I denied the possibility for years, even though multiple people told me I could be on the spectrum. It is also possible to learn to mimic social skills from others. It doesn't come innately to us, but in many cases we can learn.



My boyfriend is extremely sensitive and has a hard time expressing his inner world without feeling judged. He’s always told me that one reason he feels comfortable with me is because he can be himself without fear of judgment. Even so, it’s really hard for him to share things like his favorite music; when he does, he gets anxious about what I might think, even though the music isn’t strange or bad at all. He’s very sensitive and his feelings get hurt easily.

I also know that, despite all this, he says I haven’t seen all of his “crazy” sides. He’s incredibly intelligent and almost always seems to read my mind.

Right now, he’s successfully pursuing his PhD and is nearly 30 years old.

All these things make it really difficult for me to figure out how to bring up the idea that he might be on the autism spectrum — and that it’s not a bad thing. I want him to understand that if we are aware of it, we can actually use it to our advantage in our relationship. How do you think I should talk to him about it?



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Do you have any advice on how I might approach the conversation in a kind and respectful way?
Perhaps look at lists of famous/successful people suspected of being Autistic and find some you know your partner would likely have a high opinion of and casually mention to him...

They think Albert Einstein may have been Autistic! (...Dan Aykroyd...Anthony Hopkins...Charles Darwin...Emily Dickinson...Bill Gates...Isaac Newton...Thomas Jefferson...Stanley Kubrick...Michelangelo...Mozart...etc)


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