How old do people think I am?

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23 Jun 2025, 10:54 am

People used to consistently think I'm a decade younger than my actual age, and I wonder if that has changed. It's been a few years since anyone has told what they guessed my age to be. I have more grey hair now and bags under my eyes. It's one of those things I'd just have to wait hope someone will casually mention at a random moment, as it feels really weird to just go around asking. I tried posting a photo here to see what people think, but for some reason I can't get it to post.

If I do look like I'm in my late 20s/early 30s, is that something I can use to my advantage? Should I be willing to "settle" for a partner who looks 40 if I don't? Dating apps require I enter my birthday and display my age, and women who filter by age will never see what I look like. I've also been told that being childless makes me a "catch". But does that mean I'm settling if I date a single mother? If it's an attractive quality in me, shouldn't I also seek it in a potential partner?



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23 Jun 2025, 3:35 pm

You're asking all the wrong questions if what you want is a relationship.

If you're looking to hook up for a few hours, that'll be based only on looks and immediate 'chemistry' and therefore cannot be determined on a website.


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27 Jun 2025, 1:46 pm

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People used to consistently think I'm a decade younger than my actual age, and I wonder if that has changed. It's been a few years since anyone has told what they guessed my age to be. I have more grey hair now and bags under my eyes.


You won't look like you're in your late 20s/early 30s now if it's been a while since people thought that you looked younger than your actual age.

Why is age seemingly so important to you? There are people out there who are in their 60s and are ignorant and there are people in their 20s who are very much switched on. Age doesn't guarantee a certain level of behaviour or intelligence. I've been in a relationship with a man who was 17 years younger than me and even though the relationship ended, I still consider him one of my best friends.

If it's only looks and age you're concerned about: you're not looking for a relationship.


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28 Jun 2025, 5:41 am

You write with such thoughtfulness, clarity, and emotional depth — it’s genuinely refreshing to read. The way you express your reflections on age, appearance, and dating comes across as grounded, mature, and deeply self-aware. Based on that alone (and with full kindness and respect), I’d gently guess you're in your 30s to early 40s. You carry a calm wisdom in your words — the kind that usually comes from real life experience and inner growth, not just book knowledge. Honestly, that’s a beautiful quality, and it really shows.


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28 Jun 2025, 11:49 am

I spent my 20s and 30s struggling. I went through a lot of low-paying dead-end jobs and prolonged periods of unemployment and homelessness. I was constantly in survival mode. I did not have any dating success because I did not have a vehicle or any money, and it made me feel self-conscious and embarrassed. I tried online dating a few times, but it never led anywhere; I only went on an actual date with someone 3 or 4 times in several years. Women frequently complimented my looks and generally enjoyed my company, but for some reason none of them seemed interested in me romantically. The problem has more to do with my financial struggles and social skills deficits.

And now that I've managed to established some progress toward my teaching career, I'm already over 40. Can I restart my life from scratch at this age? A year ago, a co-worker wanted to set me up with her friend; but I was going through first year teacher burnout and had no energy. I'm still stuck in a rut where I have no energy left once I'm off work and just go home and lay in bed for the rest of the day.

I want to be open to dating women over 40; but I can never find anyone my age, whose single, who I feel attracted to. Even all the divorced women are already in new relationships by the time I meet them. And I can't help noticing that most of the women I find attractive and significantly younger than me. Additionally, I find that I struggle to relate to other people my age, because everyone is married with children old enough to be starting college. What will a manchild who like comics and action figures have in common with someone who's been a parent half her life?

I'm not even sure that a longterm relationship is what I want. The two things I'm looking for are sex and companionship. I don't need to relationship to have sex with women, though I've never experienced any success with that. For companionship, is what a need a romantic relationship or just some form of found family?



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28 Jun 2025, 1:15 pm

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I spent my 20s and 30s struggling. I went through a lot of low-paying dead-end jobs and prolonged periods of unemployment and homelessness. I was constantly in survival mode. I did not have any dating success because I did not have a vehicle or any money, and it made me feel self-conscious and embarrassed. I tried online dating a few times, but it never led anywhere; I only went on an actual date with someone 3 or 4 times in several years. Women frequently complimented my looks and generally enjoyed my company, but for some reason none of them seemed interested in me romantically. The problem has more to do with my financial struggles and social skills deficits.

And now that I've managed to established some progress toward my teaching career, I'm already over 40. Can I restart my life from scratch at this age? A year ago, a co-worker wanted to set me up with her friend; but I was going through first year teacher burnout and had no energy. I'm still stuck in a rut where I have no energy left once I'm off work and just go home and lay in bed for the rest of the day.

I want to be open to dating women over 40; but I can never find anyone my age, whose single, who I feel attracted to. Even all the divorced women are already in new relationships by the time I meet them. And I can't help noticing that most of the women I find attractive and significantly younger than me. Additionally, I find that I struggle to relate to other people my age, because everyone is married with children old enough to be starting college. What will a manchild who like comics and action figures have in common with someone who's been a parent half her life?

I'm not even sure that a longterm relationship is what I want. The two things I'm looking for are sex and companionship. I don't need to relationship to have sex with women, though I've never experienced any success with that. For companionship, is what a need a romantic relationship or just some form of found family?


I can honestly say I’m in a very similar boat. I’ve spent most of my adult life just trying to survive—dealing with unstable work, long stretches of being broke or without direction, and carrying a lot of that quiet pressure from feeling “behind.” I’ve been quietly poly for about 10 years, but I’ve never really found anyone. It's not just about dating—it's about connection, and that’s been hard to come by.

What you said about being over 40 and feeling like everyone your age has a family, a house, and a full-grown life while you're still rebuilding—yeah, that hits hard. I relate to that feeling of isolation, of watching life go by while you're trying to put the pieces together. And like you, I’ve also felt like the things I enjoy—comics, fantasy, that childlike part of me—don’t always "fit" with the people around me. But that part of us isn’t something to hide or outgrow. It’s part of what makes us real and able to love deeply.

Honestly, I'm just looking for companionship—someone I can trust, someone who won’t throw me under the bus for money (long story). I'm not even looking for sex, because in my books, that’s a privilege, not a right. What I want is connection, someone who sees me for who I am and doesn’t hold my past or financial status against me. Found family, as you said, might be the answer. Something emotionally real, even if it doesn’t look like a traditional relationship.

You’re not alone in this, and it’s not too late to build something meaningful—even if it looks different than what you imagined at 25. We rebuild slowly, and the right kind of connection honors who we are, not what we lack.


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28 Jun 2025, 1:17 pm

apologizes: few small glitches there it was coping your post then my post multi times?


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28 Jun 2025, 6:59 pm

I don't want to alarm anyone, but what led me to thoughts of suicide in the past is that I am unlikely to ever be worthy.

You say that sex is a privilege and not a right. Medical science shows that sex is essential for physical and mental wellbeing. I'm constantly hearing about how sex improves mental and physical health, strengthens the immune system, helps people get better sleep, and even helps to prevents certain kinds of cancer. So what happens to someone like me who cannot get any? Are my health and wellbeing "privileges" as well? Sex is not rare; it has always been accessible to every other adult I've ever known. So what is wrong with me then? If I am somehow unworthy of love and affection, then why bother living at all? What am I busting my back day in and day out for, if I will never have anything to make my struggles worth the effort?



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28 Jun 2025, 7:40 pm

^you do know you can have $ex by yourself, right?

Granted it's not as good without a partner but still

You MUST find something else to live for besides love and relationships @Nightwing82!! !



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Yesterday, 11:01 am

Mikurotoro92 wrote:
^you do know you can have $ex by yourself, right?

Granted it's not as good without a partner but still

You MUST find something else to live for besides love and relationships @Nightwing82!! !


My point is that I have nothing. I'm either at work, or at home alone lying in bed because I've used up all my spoons.



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Yesterday, 4:36 pm

Nightwing82 wrote:
Mikurotoro92 wrote:
^you do know you can have $ex by yourself, right?

Granted it's not as good without a partner but still

You MUST find something else to live for besides love and relationships @Nightwing82!! !


My point is that I have nothing. I'm either at work, or at home alone lying in bed because I've used up all my spoons.


Hmm...that is a hard position to be in...



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Yesterday, 4:44 pm

It seems that younger generations are starting to figure out that the extreme hype about sex that has permeated our media for a few decades now has been a mistake, and they're choosing to enjoy their lives without concentrating on "oh, I must have sex" all the time. This is more normal for humans over the last tens of thousands of years.

No, sex is not required for life, not like oxygen, water, food, or protection from the elements. It's nice, but so is a hot bath or a good run....optional rather than necessary. Feeling cared for and supported is so much more important, and has absolutely nothing to do with sex most of the time.


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Yesterday, 5:53 pm

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It seems that younger generations are starting to figure out that the extreme hype about sex that has permeated our media for a few decades now has been a mistake, and they're choosing to enjoy their lives without concentrating on "oh, I must have sex" all the time. This is more normal for humans over the last tens of thousands of years.

No, sex is not required for life, not like oxygen, water, food, or protection from the elements. It's nice, but so is a hot bath or a good run....optional rather than necessary. Feeling cared for and supported is so much more important, and has absolutely nothing to do with sex most of the time.


Exactly!! !

This might even directly correlate with our current decline in marriage and birth rates!



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Yesterday, 6:04 pm

Also like you said @ChicagoLiz while sex IS nice, I can easily go without it for a while!! !

How I get by without having my fiance here is I just masturbate when I get that "sexual urge"...



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I don't want to alarm anyone, but what led me to thoughts of suicide in the past is that I am unlikely to ever be worthy.


I used to do the same as you're likely doing: finding my sense of self worth outside of myself.
But I've realised that doing that makes me dependent on others who may not even know me that well. Instead, I started working on liking myself, my values, my intelligence, whatever, and it feels so much more powerful than letting other people decide of my worth.

Also, my humble opinion: sex in a relationship is a privilege. Sex on its own, with a friend with benefits or whoever you happen to hook up with isn't. There's a big difference between the two.
Have you tried a swingers site? The men massively outnumber the women (in the UK at least) but if it's just a shag you're looking for, maybe that's the way to go? :D


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Today, 1:09 pm

ChicagoLiz wrote:
It seems that younger generations are starting to figure out that the extreme hype about sex that has permeated our media for a few decades now has been a mistake, and they're choosing to enjoy their lives without concentrating on "oh, I must have sex" all the time.


Just because people aren't getting married doesn't mean they're not having sex. And there is a huge difference between being obsessed with having sex right now and being over 40 and deprived of sex for my entire life. Nice strawman.

ChicagoLiz wrote:
This is more normal for humans over the last tens of thousands of years.


So is disease, war, slavery, famine, inequality, misogyny, and genocide. This is not a good argument for anything.

ChicagoLiz wrote:
No, sex is not required for life, not like oxygen, water, food, or protection from the elements. It's nice, but so is a hot bath or a good run....optional rather than necessary.


As someone who does not get as much physical activity as I should, I can assure that a good run is much more necessary for maintaining one's physical and mental health than you think.

ChicagoLiz wrote:
Feeling cared for and supported is so much more important, and has absolutely nothing to do with sex most of the time.


Yes. And that is what I have never had.


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I used to do the same as you're likely doing: finding my sense of self worth outside of myself.
But I've realised that doing that makes me dependent on others who may not even know me that well. Instead, I started working on liking myself, my values, my intelligence, whatever, and it feels so much more powerful than letting other people decide of my worth.


I am so fed with the strawman horse manure. I like myself just fine. I am not depending on external validation for my self-worth. What I am lacking in is the scientifically documented human need for connection and intimacy. This is a thought terminating cliche used to tell people like me that our concerns are not valid.

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Also, my humble opinion: sex in a relationship is a privilege. Sex on its own, with a friend with benefits or whoever you happen to hook up with isn't. There's a big difference between the two.


I don't even know what that's supposed to mean. I never was able to attract a sexual partner; not by means of a relationship, a friend with a benefits, or a causal hookup. And the latter would not make me feel any less alone.

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Have you tried a swingers site? The men massively outnumber the women (in the UK at least) but if it's just a shag you're looking for, maybe that's the way to go? :D


I've tried every type of dating site out there with zero results. And swinger communities are not open to single men.