cyberdora wrote:
lostonearth35 wrote:
Humans are toxic offline, too.
yeah, some spillover...
Many people increasingly more selfish, entitled and less aware of others. It was happening already but the covid thing exacerbated it.
This is the sort of statement that many will tell you is just perception and difficult/impossible to quantify but I can/have literally measured it by the number of examples of very selfish, or completely unaware/ignorant of others incidents while driving.
And yeah, spillover into social media is inevitable. I've posted on online forums/bulletin boards for about 30 years now, I've always preferred the structured and long-term conversational nature to the more dynamic algorithm driven forms of social media. Every forum I've ever posted in has, as a more or less constant theme, posts complaining that the forum isn't as good as it used to be. I recently departed one after over 20 years, a big one that besides it's core theme had a large and active sub-forum set covering a diverse range of topics, and on which friendly posters would often go to some effort and research to answer questions. I asked a question on one regarding planning permission process - declined some requests that I post up plans pointing out I was specifically interested in the process and my/the councils obligations/rights etc rather than peoples opinions of said plans - someone then, using a couple of breadcrumbs in my post, searched the councils site to find the plans and post them up, doxing me in the process...
That someone would go to such effort - either they were extremely lucky or they must have taken ages - just to win the internet that day in a stupid little forum just brought home to me how much things have changed. A lot of posters today seem to require that someone is wrong for them to be right, that someone is upset for them to feel joy, like it's some kind of zero sum. This isn't "discussion" whereby one may take a counter view and be combative over it's dissection, it's argument for arguments sake, misinterpreting to suit an entirely different narrative, picking up irrelevant details and making them the focus (right down to typos) and so on. And if they can get a post moderated or banned thats the highest form of art. Things that have always existed, but the ratio inverting to the point that I just felt trying to have honest discussion in said space to be a pointless endeavour. In fairness, I think my manner of posting and lack of conforming to social rules may not be welcome in a lot of NT spaces. I think online spaces in general were probably far more ND back in the day.