Board index › General Discussion › News and Current Events

Do Bad People Have It Coming?

Page 2 of 2 [ 27 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2

Previous topic | Next topic

cyberdora
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Jan 2025
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 2,085
Location: Australia

29 Jun 2025, 5:16 pm

I once worked for an "evil" human being. Over staff drinks she divulged to me she doesn't believe in life after death or that we have a soul. Our only experiences happen on earth. this "soulless" individual coped with her sociopathic behaviour by believing there was going to be no consequences. Her chain smoking probably also helped.



Aspiegaming
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2012
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,039
Location: Hagerstown, MD

29 Jun 2025, 5:24 pm

When Luigi Mangione struck, that was a karma dump and he received karma too for his actions.

Punishing another man's sin with another sin you commit does not win you any brownie points.


_________________
I am sick, and in so being I am the healthy one.
If my darkness or eccentricity offends you, I don't really care.
I will not apologize for being me.

There is no such thing as perfect. We are beautiful as we are. With all our imperfections, we can do anything.


cyberdora
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Jan 2025
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 2,085
Location: Australia

29 Jun 2025, 5:28 pm

Aspiegaming wrote:
Punishing another man's sin with another sin you commit does not win you any brownie points.


Nah, happens all the time, take revenge and live with the consequences.



kadanuumuu
Sea Gull
Sea Gull

User avatar

Joined: 26 May 2025
Age: 49
Gender: Male
Posts: 240
Location: Belgium

30 Jun 2025, 4:29 am

my 2 cents: Karmic retribution does not exists.
What does exist is people judging themselves, but this only happens/occurs when the person in question believes in something larger, more important than themselves. (Ps: by this I do not mean that there exists something extra-natural, but people who are capable of loving something/someone more than they love themselves are the ones who can 'self'-impose the karma I mentioned)

Kind regards,
Kada



Nightwing82
Sea Gull
Sea Gull

Joined: 30 Apr 2024
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 220
Location: Oklahoma City

30 Jun 2025, 5:54 am

cyberdora wrote:
I once worked for an "evil" human being. Over staff drinks she divulged to me she doesn't believe in life after death or that we have a soul. Our only experiences happen on earth. this "soulless" individual coped with her sociopathic behaviour by believing there was going to be no consequences. Her chain smoking probably also helped.


I see.

So now anyone who doesn't believe that death is just being magically transported to some ethereal realm where justice occurs is an evil psychpath?! Nice strawman.

Religions that posits that there's an afterlife where everyone is judged, like Islam and Christianity, do not offer justice; they promise their followers that everything they've done to harm others will be forgiven, while everyone who wasn't lucky enough to born into the correct culture will be sadistically tortured for eternity for the crime of not making the right guess.



Nightwing82
Sea Gull
Sea Gull

Joined: 30 Apr 2024
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 220
Location: Oklahoma City

30 Jun 2025, 6:06 am

:twisted:

Aspiegaming wrote:
When Luigi Mangione struck, that was a karma dump and he received karma too for his actions.

Punishing another man's sin with another sin you commit does not win you any brownie points.


More confirmation bias. Vigilantes conciously choosing to act is not karma. Where is the consistency? Why isn't this happening to all billionaires, CEOs, and politicians who abuse their power? And why do innocent people get gunned down much more often? Was what happened to Tray Martin or Breonna Taylor karma?



PhosphorusDecree
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 3 May 2016
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,645
Location: Yorkshire, UK

30 Jun 2025, 6:12 am

CapedOwl wrote:
Revolutions tend to go really, really badly. Basically, one group of totally corrupt narcissists/machiavellians/psychopaths are replaced with a very comparably corrupt, different group of narcissists/machiavellians/psychopaths, who ostensibly champion a competing ideology.

Since nobody really looks at the psychology of these leaders in any serious or meaningful way, nothing really changes in the way of a promised utopia getting any closer. These leaders know all too well that all they have to do is convincingly promise such a utopia, but then wouldn't you know it, they never actually deliver it. In a nutshell, power in the hands of dark psychology just shifts to other people with very comparable dark psychology. Power is siezed by one such group after another, all awaiting their turn and opportunity.


At some point in my teens, I ran across the phrase "The Revolution is always betrayed by its leaders." Not sure what that's a quote from, but nothing I've learned about since has contradicted that statement.


_________________
You're so vain
I bet you think this sig is about you


Aspiegaming
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2012
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,039
Location: Hagerstown, MD

30 Jun 2025, 8:05 am

Nightwing82 wrote:
:twisted:
Aspiegaming wrote:
When Luigi Mangione struck, that was a karma dump and he received karma too for his actions.

Punishing another man's sin with another sin you commit does not win you any brownie points.


More confirmation bias. Vigilantes conciously choosing to act is not karma. Where is the consistency? Why isn't this happening to all billionaires, CEOs, and politicians who abuse their power? And why do innocent people get gunned down much more often? Was what happened to Tray Martin or Breonna Taylor karma?


Every belief system that tries to describe the balance between good and evil, good luck and bad luck has some inconsistencies that are too big and too horrible to ignore.

We are often told as children that good always triumphs over evil and yet there are way too many historical examples of evil getting away with its deeds for far too long and triumphing far too often before ultimate defeat.

What could explain that?


_________________
I am sick, and in so being I am the healthy one.
If my darkness or eccentricity offends you, I don't really care.
I will not apologize for being me.

There is no such thing as perfect. We are beautiful as we are. With all our imperfections, we can do anything.


cyberdora
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Jan 2025
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 2,085
Location: Australia

30 Jun 2025, 5:01 pm

Nightwing82 wrote:
So now anyone who doesn't believe that death is just being magically transported to some ethereal realm where justice occurs is an evil psychpath?! Nice strawman.


Just for context, my ex-boss is/was a narcissist. She used to be a lead singer in a B-grade rock/roll band before entering the corporate world. I was merely conveying her thought process, not mine.



cyberdora
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Jan 2025
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 2,085
Location: Australia

30 Jun 2025, 5:10 pm

Nightwing82 wrote:
Religions that posits that there's an afterlife where everyone is judged, like Islam and Christianity, do not offer justice; they promise their followers that everything they've done to harm others will be forgiven, while everyone who wasn't lucky enough to born into the correct culture will be sadistically tortured for eternity for the crime of not making the right guess.


Fair point, but I think this thread is about karma. Not islamic or christian eternal damnation.



cyberdora
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Jan 2025
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 2,085
Location: Australia

30 Jun 2025, 5:20 pm

PhosphorusDecree wrote:
At some point in my teens, I ran across the phrase "The Revolution is always betrayed by its leaders." Not sure what that's a quote from, but nothing I've learned about since has contradicted that statement.


It's relevant that socialism in the western world was conceived and conceptualised by literate members of the bourgeois class who lived aristocratic lives. Marx and Engels could never conceive how systems they thought up in the coffee houses of Europe could ever work without future socialist leaders dispensing with "benevolence" and relying more on authoritarianism to get their own way.