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10 Mar 2010, 5:01 pm

NEUROLOGICALLY COMPLEX joining the dots - Aspergers - Dyspraxia - Dyslexia - ADHD - Bipolar "They may stick many labels on me, but like everyone I am a unique individual and it’s taken many differences and variables, as with each diagnosis that helps us understand that little bit more, but there is no real comparable as each individual is a combination of many factors. !

For those of us with varied to some complex neurological minds, often seem to find it harder to connect with society in general. For me apart form being on the autism spectrum and having Aspergers which often has a list of differences to start with, I also have varied other co-morbids which many have on the spectrum. So I will attempt to help others understand in general what that can be like, when diagnosed most often had no cue and so I had no where to turn, or the understanding that I needed, unless maybe joined 5 groups plus for different parts of me ! !! the world of neurological difference disjointed and often in affected for that reason and often simply do not understand my way of thinking, to some may always be intriguingly interesting and out of reach to others, let me explain more...

First I seem intelligent when speak one on one, as you add in more individuals I start to over process and can seem like a jumbled chaotic individual who has no cue, let me assure you I do and often its the lack of understanding from others and not being able to communicate my way creates this. This can be extremely frustrating for me and usually back away from individuals who are unable to listen to me, seems like the majority often. But apart from what mentioned above my mind processes a lot faster than the average person, its like a computer I guess, its over analysis and processes every thought. Soi often usually conversations when can quick fire back ideas, concepts one on one or here on a computer works for me, but for me to listen to often 10 people saying the same things when got when first said is way beyond me sometimes and I simply close down, stops me over processing, overloading. Because have found if try and explain, I am being rude because quite often others are unable to grasp what I am trying to say, they simply I guess are not ready.

I am sure a good neurologist could describe all my differences better than me, and would love to hear from anyone that can tell how they all seem to overlap and interact etc.. but a genearl breakdown to help others understand - but very basic and will write an article on this soon, along with many other misunderstood points about us:
Aspergers socially I am different often when others chatting quite happily I am focusing on my own interest or simply seeing differently, as for some reason what others say at times seems irrelevant or simply does not interest me, I like routine and order, the logical approach to things, tend to be like a sense of fairness and tend to feel a need to do what's right.. Sensory wise the world seems to attack me at times, I often relate to the natural world more than people, because more than often they do not get me and do not want to. Even shopping a task I advoid, shop on line because especially surper markets too much noise, to much to processing, too much out of order and things that do not make sense to me and by the end often I want to explode, so withdraw.

Dyspraxia means I can seem extremely awkward and often walk into things, unintentionally. Growing up I was one of the most sporty individuals I know, but still have no balance and some things have always found hard, I tend to suit individual sports like running, kayaking things I can do in my own space and in my own way. If their is sometime to break, trip on I probably will at some stage.. Smiley

Dyslexia chaotic words that jumble for me near impossible to put words down on paper, jumble as my mind over processes and changes thought so fast, computers a god send, but to be honest everything I type have to check for order and check for spelling, so takes me a little longer to type anything, but the perfectionist in me needs to, as with a need to be right and order. sometimes I think I have my own language and partly feel because growing up have a speech disorder, almost sure now clutters (not so bad I guess as Winston Churchill had Smiley) but often was not understood until alot later in life when had speech theory and still have my own way of expressing myself at times... and when others unable to hear me on my terms, I often close down. I also talk much faster than the average person, but that's 10 times slower than how my mind works, when younger I often spoke far too fast and jumbled for anyone to understand, guess partly

ADHD the fast part, no surprise I never stop and always give 200% to what ever I do, but my mind rarely turns off and as processes extremely fast hard for me to sleep unless really need to. . All above only a a small insight into my many differences.. oh nearly forgot bipolar the word I am not meant to mention, but to me simply a word that explains yet another part of me.. I will be writing a story of my insights for a book on this so will keep short, but my moods, extremities are apart of what makes my world interesting and so different at times, giving me an intense creative focus and I partly feel as I have no choice but to often live on the edge of society. bipolar is simply an extremity of my already complex self.!

But this combination means I get to see the overview of things, extremely quickly and in fact my last job in London I was one of the key people for implementation of system processes and writing manual instructions for individual use, I am not so good on small points being discussed endlessly. irrelevance and often people unless connect with, I can hyper focus and get things done, to me simply a different sort of intelligence that often gets misunderstood, misread and far to often discriminated against unnecessarily. I can interact with others, but when always on their terms exhausting and to be honest as I get older I do not have the energy for the presence or want to and guess I have the confidence to be me and I am fine with that. Please do not let this put you off, as I am extremely happy within my own space and doing things my own way, guess their has to be palace or purpose for all of us. !


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10 Mar 2010, 6:50 pm

I can so relate to what you are saying. Even a bit to bipolar but not in a extreme sense. I'm currently waiting to be approved to see my psychiatrist about an ADHD-I evaluation. I tried but didn't get diagnosed with dyslexia. They just said I may have it mild. I often have to carefully check if I have spelled everything right, and I get the speech problems too. Never had therapy for it. Will it help at my age?
There's also some mild dyspraxia, thought hat could just be poor motor skills because of AS.


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19 Mar 2010, 7:34 am

We are all a combination of differences on or off the spectrum, each of us a unique individuals and those that search for answer get to be able to embrace who they are, gain confidence and in turn simply be... :wink:


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03 Oct 2010, 6:56 pm

I'm finding it hard differentiating between dyspraxia and autism, in terms of speech development.
Delayed speech is a symptom of both, isn't it?
If a young child has delayed speech, should they be tested for autism if they don't function socially either (plus other symptoms of autism)?
Or should it be assumed that the lack of social interaction is a part of not being able to speak, and dyspraxia diagnosed straight off?

I know that this is off the subject topic somewhat, but "asplanet" seems like they might know the answer to this question.



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03 Oct 2010, 7:08 pm

Claire_Louise wrote:
I'm finding it hard differentiating between dyspraxia and autism, in terms of speech development. Delayed speech is a symptom of both, isn't it?.

Mt take, as I feel the many neurological co-morbid's to the spectrum are part of th4e same thing?
"In the Mix - the centre of the spectrum maybe a variation of differences. Let me explain myself neurologically wired differently, sensory wise I sense the world differently, I am so in tuned at times with the world it’s like surround sound, intellectual learning differences which vary greatly, but really to me a different type of intelligence, mentally minded differently possibly an extremity of feeling at odds with the world. But for those of us who have varied differences I see as the inner core, those with less the outer and including many other differences as the circle widens such as highly sensitive etc...and then on the very outer circle those with no difference at all and so isn't the real problem those on the outer circle not understanding the inner circle.! !!" http://asplanet.info/index.php?option=c ... Itemid=125


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04 Oct 2010, 1:13 am

Claire_Louise wrote:
I'm finding it hard differentiating between dyspraxia and autism, in terms of speech development.
Delayed speech is a symptom of both, isn't it?
If a young child has delayed speech, should they be tested for autism if they don't function socially either (plus other symptoms of autism)?
Or should it be assumed that the lack of social interaction is a part of not being able to speak, and dyspraxia diagnosed straight off?

I know that this is off the subject topic somewhat, but "asplanet" seems like they might know the answer to this question.


There are different kind of dyspraxia, there are dyspraxic children who have no delay of speech (some of them may or may not have trouble with pronunciation later in life). Well, I guess it's just like in Autism since Asperger usually have no delay either.



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08 Feb 2015, 5:39 pm

The distinction between Autism, Dyspraxia, Dyslexia, Bi-Polar Disorder, Schizophrenia, OCD, ADHD and Borderline Personality Disorder is not clear-cut.

There's a significant overlap in symptoms and genetic correlation between each of these "disorders". Co-morbidity is also very common.

Personally, I lean towards the notion that Autism, Dyspraxia, Dyslexia, Bi-Polar Disorder, Schizophrenia, OCD, ADHD and Borderline Personality Disorder are not individual conditions but as different expressions of the same spectrum.

I would also argue that these are not disorders, but normal variations within human behavior that have been pathologized for no other reason but the rather eccentric and unusual behavior of people within, which makes them more difficult to manipulate and control.