Bobbi Kristina Another life lost to that nasty drug Heroin!

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26 Jul 2015, 7:57 pm

Bobbi Kristina Brown lost her life after found unresponsive in a bath tub. Toxicity reports reveal she had heroin in her bloodstream.

http://www.eonline.com/news/620807/bobb ... month-coma

I hope the media will hype this drug for the nasty evil it is. They should be doing that everytime someone dies and it's implicated in some way. It's a nasty trip for those who take it and it kills you. It's not a pain killer it's a pain bringer.



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26 Jul 2015, 8:15 pm

I'm probably going to be banned for saying so, but anyone who screws around with opiates and gets hooked, even under a doctor's care, deserves whatever is coming to them.



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26 Jul 2015, 8:17 pm

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I'm probably going to be banned for saying so, but anyone who screws around with opiates and gets hooked, even under a doctor's care, deserves whatever is coming to them.

What we all deserve is the truth about it.



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26 Jul 2015, 8:28 pm

So easy to condemn people! If opiates are not for you, then you are lucky, they do nothing for me either. But for some it is a different matter. I have heard it described as the best hug ever. He recently died in its embrace. Did he deserve it? Maybe he even desired not to come back. Life can loose its appeal at times, a notion I am all too familiar with and probably also familiar to many here from the posts I've seen. Have some compassion for people who deal with their pain in a way that may seem strange to you, their pain is as valid as yours!


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26 Jul 2015, 8:28 pm

My condolences to the family, this is one drug I will stay the hell away from.



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26 Jul 2015, 8:58 pm

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So easy to condemn people! If opiates are not for you, then you are lucky, they do nothing for me either. But for some it is a different matter. I have heard it described as the best hug ever. He recently died in its embrace. Did he deserve it? Maybe he even desired not to come back. Life can loose its appeal at times, a notion I am all too familiar with and probably also familiar to many here from the posts I've seen. Have some compassion for people who deal with their pain in a way that may seem strange to you, their pain is as valid as yours!


I have never in my life heard anyone describe heroin as the best hug ever!! !! Where does this come from? I have only ever heard it described as a horrible experience never to be had again and I heard this from people who liked drugs , not the anti drug people who tell everyone, don't take this, don't take that! It would be great if that message could still get out. Don't waste your time with a sucky drug! It will paralyze you then kill you! I have taken percoset and vicodin in the past, neither do that.
It's not like the stuff you get from the doctor, as in percoset, percodan and vicodin. The stuff from the doctor does help get rid of physical pain but heroin just messes with your mind and body so you cannot move. How can that be fun? You spend so much time in that state. I've heard people say they absolutely despise that feeling. It's completely false to ever say it's like a big hug. That's just a very recent thing I have heard. Not one person ever said it when I was a teenager in the eighties. The ones who are saying that are romanticising a crappy drug. Just because it's an opiate doesn't mean it's going to make you feel great. Please do not assume heroin is like these others.



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26 Jul 2015, 9:02 pm

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I'm probably going to be banned for saying so, but anyone who screws around with opiates and gets hooked, even under a doctor's care, deserves whatever is coming to them.

That's harsh. I don't do heroine myself, but I certainly wouldn't pass judgement on someone who does. And we all deserve what is coming to us.



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26 Jul 2015, 9:14 pm

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So easy to condemn people! If opiates are not for you, then you are lucky, they do nothing for me either. But for some it is a different matter. I have heard it described as the best hug ever. He recently died in its embrace. Did he deserve it? Maybe he even desired not to come back. Life can loose its appeal at times, a notion I am all too familiar with and probably also familiar to many here from the posts I've seen. Have some compassion for people who deal with their pain in a way that may seem strange to you, their pain is as valid as yours!


I have never in my life heard anyone describe heroin as the best hug ever!! ! ! Where does this come from? I have only ever heard it described as a horrible experience never to be had again and I heard this from people who liked drugs , not the anti drug people who tell everyone, don't take this, don't take that! It would be great if that message could still get out. Don't waste your time with a sucky drug! It will paralyze you then kill you! I have taken percoset and vicodin in the past, neither do that.
It's not like the stuff you get from the doctor, as in percoset, percodan and vicodin. The stuff from the doctor does help get rid of physical pain but heroin just messes with your mind and body so you cannot move. How can that be fun? You spend so much time in that state. I've heard people say they absolutely despise that feeling. It's completely false to ever say it's like a big hug. That's just a very recent thing I have heard. Not one person ever said it when I was a teenager in the eighties. The ones who are saying that are romanticising a crappy drug. Just because it's an opiate doesn't mean it's going to make you feel great. Please do not assume heroin is like these others.


Then why are these drugs on FDA's Schedule 1? Then why do some of those people on drugs like OxyContin or Percoset or norco that are Continually doctor shopping in order to get their next fix? If there wasn't so much goddamned waste fraud and abuse in the entire healthcare industry, would we the so-called people be even having a discussion about healthcare?



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26 Jul 2015, 9:20 pm

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Then why are these drugs on FDA's Schedule 1? Then why do some of those people on drugs like OxyContin or Percoset or norco that are Continually doctor shopping in order to get their next fix? If there wasn't so much goddamned waste fraud and abuse in the entire healthcare industry, would we the so-called people be even having a discussion about healthcare?

I accidentally overdosed on oxycontin once. I think I almost died. It was a horrible experience. Having said that, there are people with chronic pain. Also people dying of cancer suffer tremendous pain. So there is a valid reason for their existence.



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26 Jul 2015, 9:31 pm

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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Carl_m wrote:
So easy to condemn people! If opiates are not for you, then you are lucky, they do nothing for me either. But for some it is a different matter. I have heard it described as the best hug ever. He recently died in its embrace. Did he deserve it? Maybe he even desired not to come back. Life can loose its appeal at times, a notion I am all too familiar with and probably also familiar to many here from the posts I've seen. Have some compassion for people who deal with their pain in a way that may seem strange to you, their pain is as valid as yours!


I have never in my life heard anyone describe heroin as the best hug ever!! ! ! Where does this come from? I have only ever heard it described as a horrible experience never to be had again and I heard this from people who liked drugs , not the anti drug people who tell everyone, don't take this, don't take that! It would be great if that message could still get out. Don't waste your time with a sucky drug! It will paralyze you then kill you! I have taken percoset and vicodin in the past, neither do that.
It's not like the stuff you get from the doctor, as in percoset, percodan and vicodin. The stuff from the doctor does help get rid of physical pain but heroin just messes with your mind and body so you cannot move. How can that be fun? You spend so much time in that state. I've heard people say they absolutely despise that feeling. It's completely false to ever say it's like a big hug. That's just a very recent thing I have heard. Not one person ever said it when I was a teenager in the eighties. The ones who are saying that are romanticising a crappy drug. Just because it's an opiate doesn't mean it's going to make you feel great. Please do not assume heroin is like these others.


Then why are these drugs on FDA's Schedule 1? Then why do some of those people on drugs like OxyContin or Percoset or norco that are Continually doctor shopping in order to get their next fix? If there wasn't so much goddamned waste fraud and abuse in the entire healthcare industry, would we the so-called people be even having a discussion about healthcare?

Schedule 1 is any illegal drug.

People get addicted to prescription drugs just like they do illegal but prescription drugs are not dangerous when taken as directed by a doctor. If he prescribes percoset and you follow the directions on the bottle, you can have a good experience with it although some people like my Aunt can't take it at all without getting really nauseated. I can take percoset without any problem and find that it really helps me but I don't take it regularly nor am I addicted to it. I had one prescription for it in my entire life, in 1997 and I admit that drug really helped me a lot. I wouldn't have made it without it.

Even though I can say this about percoset, I cannot say the same for heroin because I would never even try it. I have simply been around enough people who have, back before it was so romanticized, to ever have the desire. I heard terrible stories and it convinced me. It's not the drug to take unless you want to suffer. A lot.



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26 Jul 2015, 9:44 pm

Meistersinger wrote:
I'm probably going to be banned for saying so, but anyone who screws around with opiates and gets hooked, even under a doctor's care, deserves whatever is coming to them.


That's ignorant, irresponsible doctors deserve a lot of the blame and its just an inherent risk of using opiates. My brother had heart surgery a few years ago, apparently the type of surgery is one of the most painful to recover from and he became addicted to opiates afterwards. It's a sickness, it turns people into totally different people.



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Bobbi Kristina Brown lost her life after found unresponsive in a bath tub. Toxicity reports reveal she had heroin in her bloodstream.

http://www.eonline.com/news/620807/bobb ... month-coma

I hope the media will hype this drug for the nasty evil it is. They should be doing that everytime someone dies and it's implicated in some way. It's a nasty trip for those who take it and it kills you. It's not a pain killer it's a pain bringer.


They already do that.


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26 Jul 2015, 9:52 pm

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They already do that.


Tabloid journalism, maybe, but that's not what I am talking about. TBH they do more with anti smoking ads. They spend a lot of time and money placing videos of people injured by smoking cigarettes on networks.



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26 Jul 2015, 10:53 pm

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Meistersinger wrote:
I'm probably going to be banned for saying so, but anyone who screws around with opiates and gets hooked, even under a doctor's care, deserves whatever is coming to them.
That's harsh. I don't do heroin myself, but I certainly wouldn't pass judgement on someone who does. And we all deserve what is coming to us.
I've never done heroin; but I have seen first-hand its effects on people. The all died horribly, sooner or later.

If they had heard all of the warnings about the drug, and willingly became hooked anyway, then they were just plain stupid, and I stopped weaping at their funerals after the second or third one.

But if they had never been warned, and became addicted - like babies born to heroin-addicted mothers - then they have my sympathy.

(The heroin-addicted mothers can drop dead and rot, for all that I care.)



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26 Jul 2015, 11:53 pm

Heroin addiciton starts somewhere and this is my motive for posting what I do about it. Whatever good you hear about warm fuzzy heroin is cancelled out a thousand times over by the bad so don't be fooled by the ones who says it's the best hug or whatever because it's like being hugged by a boulder going sixty mph. You don't want that hug.

I am not trying to bash the unfortunate heroin users but if they are trying to sell this drug as all warm fuzzies and hugs, then I will contradict that lie. I feel most of them are the victims of lies themselves.



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Carl_m wrote:
So easy to condemn people! If opiates are not for you, then you are lucky, they do nothing for me either. But for some it is a different matter. I have heard it described as the best hug ever. He recently died in its embrace. Did he deserve it? Maybe he even desired not to come back. Life can loose its appeal at times, a notion I am all too familiar with and probably also familiar to many here from the posts I've seen. Have some compassion for people who deal with their pain in a way that may seem strange to you, their pain is as valid as yours!


I have never in my life heard anyone describe heroin as the best hug ever!! ! ! Where does this come from? I have only ever heard it described as a horrible experience never to be had again and I heard this from people who liked drugs , not the anti drug people who tell everyone, don't take this, don't take that! It would be great if that message could still get out. Don't waste your time with a sucky drug! It will paralyze you then kill you! I have taken percoset and vicodin in the past, neither do that.
It's not like the stuff you get from the doctor, as in percoset, percodan and vicodin. The stuff from the doctor does help get rid of physical pain but heroin just messes with your mind and body so you cannot move. How can that be fun? You spend so much time in that state. I've heard people say they absolutely despise that feeling. It's completely false to ever say it's like a big hug. That's just a very recent thing I have heard. Not one person ever said it when I was a teenager in the eighties. The ones who are saying that are romanticising a crappy drug. Just because it's an opiate doesn't mean it's going to make you feel great. Please do not assume heroin is like these others.


my ex-fiance tried heroin in viet nam. he said the feeling was so good he was afraid to do it twice lest he get hooked.