Suicide - no-one understands?

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I've now told several people that I have these thoughts. No-one seems to have any reaction? Is it the lack of gory details, the fact that I don't have a "plan", or what. Is the world really that cruel? I mean, I didn't have high thoughts of people before that, but this has just become creepy.

my 'school friends' became quite scared of me when I told them I had suicidal thoughts, my therapists said something like they often don't know what to do and how to act when they are told this. I don't know if that helps

I have heard that too. Very disappointing from them.

Knowing someone who committed suicide, I can possibly add some things of use:

Thoughts & plans are very different.


Lack of reaction is a reaction. Have you considered they may be shocked?

It sounds like you know what type of reaction you want/expect.

They also may think you're being manipulative.


Probably not. But ask them and you'll know for definite.



Possibly. Again, ask them.

But having a definite plan is certainly more serious than ideation.


D you mean 'people' when you say 'the world'?

Again, maybe they are slightly shocked and know they aren't in a position to give advice when someone is claiming to be suicidal.

They possibly don't want to make your situation any worse by potentially saying the wrong thing.


Yet you expect other people to show concern for you? That is quite hypocritical.


'Creepy' is an odd word choice. Why is it creepy that someone may choose silence over potentially making your situation any worse?

Ever see that classic Nature movie/video where some large cat predator takes down a gazelle? All the others in the herd just stand there and stare. That's my impression of many NT or extroverted people when faced with something like talk of suicide. My guess - and that's all it is - is that they are so busy being social they rarely go into deep self-reflection and thought. So when something "real" happens they freeze up out of fear. Or maybe it's because they are so attuned to each other and some form of dynamic group think & suicide is the ultimate statement against being one single group. Again, just guesses, but I've noticed that behavior too. They just freeze up and pretend like the world of their creation, the one where everyone is so tightly knit together, didn't just get revealed to be just a wee bit false.

Have you thought of talking with someone who is trained to help? Sometimes, they can help see/find a way out or around it that we get blinded to...

If you are looking for reactions, keep in mind that suicide is just something that most people don't seem to want to discuss; much less even think about.

@sonicallysensitive. Errrr.... First of all, I'm not being manipulative or hypocritial (though they may think so), I have had many bad experiences with NT-people who have failed me for years. So yeah, that usually affects a person. I could definitely ask the next ones I tell, you say they could be "shocked", how sad, I don't think that shock lasts forever.

It's better to talk with a person at least a little instead of being selfish and wanting things to be fun and cool all the time There are plenty of things to say that wouldn't make the situation worse, that is what is said in online articles as well. Also its a myth that people who talk about it first don't do it. No, I haven't got a direct plan, but generally this is the way it starts out.

@Edenthiel, yes. I agree. I've tried a few "therapists", they suck. So far...

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But what is it that's making you sad?

I have a very small network of support and can't hold down a job. I lost a few important people in unexpected deaths, didn't know how to grieve properly and had to deal with a lot of absurd stuff from others in the meantime. I would say I'm usually a strong person, but sometimes I don't like dealing with everything on my own.

--> to that other person up there, creepy is not an odd use of words. We ARE odd here. It's creepy because they rant and howl about how "we humans need to take care of each other, suicide prevention, wohoo", but when it's time to actually support a human they're nowhere to be found. So we're stuck there not knowing what to do for an unknown amount of time

I'm truly sorry that so many things are coming down at you at once.

I know the feeling...trust me.

I'm lucky I'm over my problems now; but I had a slew of them a few years ago.

Did you go to University?

IceLilja - I'm trying to help you (even if it doesn't seem so) - as said, I have personal experience with the issue.

Of course.

But you may have also failed others, and not realised so.

PS I wasn't saying you were being manipulative - I was saying it could be interpreted as such.

But I do think expecting others to help you when you think little of them is slightly hypocritical.


They could be shocked.

You could always directly say you need help.



I don't think I said they don't do it.

I think I said having a plan is more serious.

Which, statistically, it is (when you are in a better frame of mind, read the work of Edwin Schneidman on the subject of suicide - very interesting).



As above.


Again - I'm trying to help you, as the product of where you could go with your thoughts is potentially devastating - not just for you, but for those you know.


Go to your doctor and get some help. It'll do you better than posting on an internet forum to complete strangers.

Those who know you in the real world who you say are indifferent to your concerns will have more care for your welfare than we ever could.

Cherish those around you - it's all you have.



But look for answers in the real world - not here. Especially given the subject is suicide.

I was told by a professional to go on the internet. I also know that many use web forums in the hopes of getting better, because they don't meet people in real life who talk about it. So do you mean another website, or no internet alltogether? I will read what you mentioned. And no, those I told were people I liked and trusted, it was after they rejected me that I stopped talking to them.
They ARE indifferent. I only turned to these forums because there's no-one to talk to. But fine, I get the point. No hard feelings.

I don't think you and I are a good match. You may think you're trying to help, but you end up making me feel the same way those who failed me did. No offence.

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You have people on this Website, WrongPlanet, who have contemplated suicide, yet succeeded in getting past that point.

Some of them have excellent stories to tell about how they overcame the desire for suicide.

Many people are in a similar situation as you. They have no friends. They can't keep a job.

It doesn't diminish what you're going through--but when one is in despair, one doesn't see the big picture. I would encourage you to try to see the big picture.

This is becoming a while ago, I just haven't gotten over it. No, I have about half of my G.E.D. Quit school at 17 and finished a few other subjects later.

The GED is a United States thing. Do you mean the GCE O-levels (in England), or something similar in another country?

My wife came to the United States with no qualifications whatsoever. She was able to pass the GED. Then she was able to get some university credits and to go to Licensed Practical Nurse school. She has trouble writing a sentence--but she succeeded.

Don't worry. I won't ask your location.

Yes, the GED / GCE O in another country. The one were you graduate at 18-19. It's not so easy to get a job without it, but maybe later