Are people too self-righteous for refusing covid vaccines?

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Everyone I talked to, family and friends, say when the covid vaccine comes out, if one comes out, that they would not take a vaccine because they do not know what is in it.

But I feel that is being too self-righteous because this covid pandemic has brought us down enough and we have to do whatever it takes to stop it's spread, including vaccines. I feel that the governments should make it mandatory even. That might sound harsh of me to say but this bigger than us, and bigger, than what we think we should do for our individual selves. We have to think of the human race first, and put our personal self-righteous beliefs second.

So I feel that people are being too self-righteous about it and the decision to say no is not theirs to make for the good of the human race. Unless I am wrong?

I don't see how fear of the unknown contents of something being injected into one's body equals being self righteous. Based on what you wrote they are afraid of what it might do to them, rather than taking some sort of moral or philosophical stance against it.

The problem with governments making it mandatory is, what steps would be taken to enforce it? Will people be forcibly inoculated against their will? Will they have everything taken from them if they don't capitulate? Will they be rounded up and placed in quarantine camps?

They did a study and only 50% of Americans say they would take the vaccine. It makes no sense really, they don't know what is in anti-biotics but they would be perfectly happy to take them. People need to take the vaccine before this virus never goes away. It might take people learning out the hard way and getting long term problems before they realize though.

That study, like just about all such studies and polls, was probably conducted using only 1000-1500 people. So it's not really 50% or 164 million Americans saying they won't take the vaccine. My belief/hope is that after a large number of people who are at the head of the line receive theirs and they don't experience complications, those at the end of the line to receive it will feel more reassured.

Also there have been very effective treatments established, so the vaccine isn't the only available resource in keeping the virus under control.

Really it seems to me that if the most vulnerable people are vaccinated, then it won't make that much difference if the 99% who won't need to be hospitalized aren't.

They would get arrested and go to jail or pay hefty fines. Maybe get their kids taken from them and get charged with child abuse. All for not getting vaccinated.

More selfish than self-righteous.

The self-righteous thing would be taking it if it hadn't been developed (as it has) by scientists who underwent peer review.

Thats if we cant eradicate the virus, which some governments seem pretty set on. I find the stupidity just as confusing as the selfishness to protect other people. How they seem so sure of themselves that vaccines are dangerous, even though they are going on here say and yet they still wont change their minds when offered information from reputable sources. I dont know how people get along in life making such bad decisions.

Last edited by holymackerel on 20 Nov 2020, 6:18 am, edited 1 time in total.

It won't be physically possible for everyone to get vaccinated all at once anyway.

That being the case, it doesn't make sense to make it mandatory immediately.

It should become mandatory only later, after large numbers of people have already been vaccinated voluntarily and carefully monitored for side-effects for at least several months.

They'll do it by high risk groups.

I hate how slightly old people (55-75) are considered more high risk than those who are shielding. If mum was 3 years older, she'd get it. She's been shielding.

There's people who've been totally selfish through lockdown and will get it before her.

I wonder if attention-seeking underlies these assertions. That may be why it can appear self-righteous.

I am generally baffled by the rejection not only of science, but also common sense.

What troubles me more is the proliferation of me-first ideals and those people mocking what is best for the community.

Is that the kind of world anyone wants to live in?

It doesn't make people admire them at all as moral things to do.

So it's not self-righteous.

If they were to say 'vaccines cause' (please not autism, I wish haha) then it might be seen as self-righteous.

I think my dad is a bit self-righteous because he knows I'm too short & thin to do a blood donation (they have a rule about it) and my dad keeps telling me every single year 'I just went to donate blood' knowing full well I can't do that and it makes him look a superior person morally to me.

I think this is being viewed vile foul contemptible anti-vaxxers. Some people are just worried about getting injected with something new. There have been new medications that turned out to have horrible side effects. Look up thalidomide babies if you want to give yourself nightmares.

Now while I seriously doubt the covid vaccine will have any serious side effects, I don't know for sure it won't. I'm plenty willing to get vaccinated, but I'm also a little bit leery. Therefore I'm not raring to condemn people for being afraid of it.

Also it seems to me that my having such an attitude would make me the self-righteous one. Remember being self-righteous is about feeling morally superior and condemning others.

Do you trust president Donald Trump?

He's the one rushing the vaccines through without much testing.

He even uses Star Trekkian language of OPERATION WARP SPEED.

City we used to live in a couple decades ago we had a neighbor who was a thalidomide baby.

And on the vaccines, there are people like me where my physician a few decades ago said that given my body's defects and quirks, and my Dad's quirky reactions to medications, and my Dad's sister's quirky reactions to medications, it might be that I want to be cautious about getting flu shots.

So, I am leery of covid vaccinations with no long-term history, and especially those with almost no history at all.

As it happens I didn't get flu shots.
Even while working in retail.
And it seems I didn't get the flu.
Which was good, were already plenty other things messed up with my body and causing daily hassles.

And ...

I'm on Social Security Disability & given what seems to be a trend of governments being increasingly coercive I can see it might happen that, "You get the covid vaccine or we cancel your disability income."

Some people ARE exercising their "righteousness" to either refuse the vaccines for themselves, convince other people to refuse the vaccines, or both.

However, both the National Catholic Bioethics Center and the Charlotte Lozier Institute have indicated it was produced ethically.

I call Bishop Strickland's claims an "Abuse of Office".

I also call them "Lies".