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05 Jan 2021, 5:50 am

The Senate Runoff election for two Senate seats in Georgia takes place today. It will decide the majority in the US Senate (and thus who becomes Senate majority leader). The election will also likely determine how hard it will be for Joe Biden to implement his policies as the next US president.

Republicans can maintain their majority by holding on to 1 seat, while the Democrats need to win both in order to achieve the narrowest possible Senate majority - a 50/50 split with the vice president (Kamala Harris) as tiebreaker.

Here are some of the latest polling (as of 5 January 2021):

270towin:
+ 2.8 Warnock (D)
+ 2.8 Ossoff (D)

FiveThirtyEight:
+ 2.0 Warnock (D)
+ 1.7 Ossoff (D)

RealClearPolitics:
+ 1.3 Warnock (D)
+ 1.0 Ossoff (D)

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/ge ... id=rrpromo
https://www.270towin.com/2020-senate-po ... f/georgia/
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... -7318.html
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... -7319.html

… so, the Democrats appear to be ahead in the contest for both seats, and their polling has improved over the Christmas Holiday. However, the margins are quite narrow, and Georgia has voted consistently Republican in Senate elections for quite a few years, now.



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05 Jan 2021, 7:04 am

This week, Mitch McConnell gave poor Republicans a zinger.

He told them that a Democrat-approved $2000 stimulus would be SOCIALISM FOR RICH PEOPLE.

Meanwhile, foreign aid, corporate grants, PPR business grants, low interest business loans is NOT SOCIALISM FOR RICH PEOPLE.

So, I expect Democrats to win in Georgia, so people can get the $2000.

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05 Jan 2021, 8:04 am

I hope the Dems get both seats.

Otherwise, obstructionism will be the order of the day.



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05 Jan 2021, 5:45 pm

Again? Georgia Senate runoff winners may not be known tonight

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It could be déjà vu in Georgia, as the state on Tuesday holds twin Senate runoff elections that will determine if the Republicans keep their majority in the chamber or if the Democrats control both houses of Congress as well as the White House.

Two months after the presidential election results in Georgia and a handful of other key battleground states went into overtime, with the races not called in some cases until four days after Election Day, there’s a good chance it could happen again in the runoff contests.

"We can expect a very, very, close election," veteran Georgia based GOP consultant Chip Lake told Fox News.

In the general election, 4.9 million people cast ballots, shattering the Peach State’s previous turnout record.

Fast forward two months and the state’s breaking a turnout record for runoff contests.

More than 3 million people, or two-fifths (40%) of the state’s registered voters, have already cast a ballot in the runoffs, either through early in-person voting or by absentee ballot. And anywhere from 800,000 to possibly over a million people will vote on Election Day.


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06 Jan 2021, 12:36 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I hope the Dems get both seats.

Otherwise, obstructionism will be the order of the day.


I'd suggest that the alternative (Democrats not getting both seats) would be the preferable option, as it would require compromise between the 2 sides.

Rather than having one party holding President, Congress and Senate, where they can proceed without any checks on their actions, having one area held by a different party would result in the the concerns of those who did not support the party with power in 2 of the 3 areas still being heard and being able to have some influence\control on the country's direction.

As an academic question: Did you feel the same way in 2018, hoping that the Republicans could take both houses to avoid obstructionism, or is it more related to the party that would be obstructed?



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06 Jan 2021, 12:48 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I hope the Dems get both seats.

Otherwise, obstructionism will be the order of the day.


There is also a possibility that some of the moderate Republicans vote with the Dems on some legislation.

Last I checked, David Perdue was in the lead for the first seat, and Raphael Warnock was in the lead for the other.


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06 Jan 2021, 1:06 am

Warnock (D) appears to have a fairly solid lead of more than 35,000 votes over Loeffler (R), so it looks like the Democrats will grab at least one Senate seat.

Looks like the question is if Perdue (R) can hold on to his - tiny - 1,300 vote lead over Ossoff (D), now.

Perdue's problem is that the outstanding votes appear to be largely from heavily Democratic areas (DeKalb county in particular, which voted 83 % for Biden in 2020). In other words, we may be looking at the same dynamic as back in November where the Democrats ended up taking the lead just before the finishing line.



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06 Jan 2021, 1:47 am

The big battle against the orange ape has been won, but it would be nice if the vote goes Democrat here as well, so that prick Mitch McConnell can be one less thorn in Biden's side going forward. That said, regardless of what happens, things are looking up. Worst case, the Democrats have to convince a couple Republicans to pass certain things. Best case, they don't have to at all. Regardless, a Democrat President will be in, and things will be looking up. But, I hope Democrat supporters in the US get to have their cake and eat it too.



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06 Jan 2021, 3:23 am

Warnock has won one of the seats.

The other race is too close to call.


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06 Jan 2021, 6:05 am

Everything except appointments and changes to the rules of the Senate remains subject to the filibuster, so it isn’t true to say that there are no checks upon the Democrats now. But given the moral depravity of the Senate Republicans, it is right and just that they have been defeated by the democratic process. A shame they didn’t lose more heavily.



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06 Jan 2021, 8:42 am

Even if there is a 51/50 democratic controlled senate, moderates in the democratic party will ensure nothing too far to the left gets through. Only one moderate democrat needs to break rank to undo their majority. And Lord knows that's much more likely to happen than senate Republicans breaking rank with their own party.

Still, it is great to see one Warnock win, and Ossoff leading Perdue (at the time of this post). I'm cautiously optimistic that Ossoff will win *knock on wood*, because iirc many of the votes still to be counted are from Dekalb county, which is about as solidly democrat as they come (Biden won the county 83.1% to 15.7%).


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06 Jan 2021, 9:36 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
Warnock has won one of the seats.

The other race is too close to call.

Which is good news considering Loeffler’s alt-right associations.
Unfortunately the senator-elect has his own bigot association problem.

The_Walrus wrote:
But given the moral depravity of the Senate Republicans, it is right and just that they have been defeated by the democratic process. A shame they didn’t lose more heavily.

What was needed was a landslide, a thorough repudiation of Trumpism and the Republican party for enabling him. Even if the dems capture both seats nothing of the sort happened. What did happen was the repudiation of Trump the man not Trumpism. While we should not minimize that it still is a sobering result.


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06 Jan 2021, 10:34 am

Ossoff has declared victory


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06 Jan 2021, 1:59 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Ossoff has declared victory



Yep Just Like 'That' And 'This'
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Yet Only Another Story Until DarK RiseS AGaiN

Just This Never Ending Story TWiLiGHT Best in Balance Now...

Yes A Tie In A Senate With An East Indian Jamaican American Vice President

Woman Will Surely Do This For Now...

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06 Jan 2021, 4:14 pm

NBC Projects Ossoff as winner. Dems take control of Senate


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06 Jan 2021, 4:15 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
NBC Projects Ossoff as winner.  Dems take control of Senate.
Too bad there is not enough time for another impeachment hearing ... but there will be time enough for a trial.


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