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03 Sep 2023, 2:55 pm

"Modern life, more depressing than at any point in past 100 years, world expert says."

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https://inews.co.uk/news/health/modern-life-more-depressing-today-100-years-expert-2590199



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05 Sep 2023, 5:46 pm

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Really, we now know that depression is a neurodegenerative disease. There’s actually a loss of tissue in key sites in the stress system, that encode the clinical and biochemical manifestations of depression.


Good of science to finally catch up to what we already been knew. Mind impacts brain, brain impacts body, body impacts brain, brain impacts mind... the cycle of fun never ends. It just kind of blows that they're focused on treatments to manage the symptoms, rather than attacking the actual problems of modern living.



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29 Oct 2023, 3:09 pm

spasmolytic wrote:
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Really, we now know that depression is a neurodegenerative disease. There’s actually a loss of tissue in key sites in the stress system, that encode the clinical and biochemical manifestations of depression.


Good of science to finally catch up to what we already been knew. Mind impacts brain, brain impacts body, body impacts brain, brain impacts mind... the cycle of fun never ends. It just kind of blows that they're focused on treatments to manage the symptoms, rather than attacking the actual problems of modern living.


That's a good point, spasmolytic.

Addressing how modern living is affecting the mental health of many people in a negative way seems to be something that is being avoided.

Curing a problem isn't profitable, I guess? :roll:



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02 Nov 2023, 1:59 pm

What about the Great Depression? Of course, that'll happen again any second now.

Talking about how depressing the world is just makes me more depressed, so what can be done about it? I guess nothing. You can't save the world, so you can't make me less depressed.



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02 Nov 2023, 3:10 pm

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What about the Great Depression? Of course, that'll happen again any second now.

Talking about how depressing the world is just makes me more depressed, so what can be done about it? I guess nothing. You can't save the world, so you can't make me less depressed.


I am hoping that in time and with progress in society, in the realm of wealth equality and perhaps more advanced medicine - that happiness will become something that is easier to obtain.



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02 Nov 2023, 3:40 pm

There probably needs to be a kind of morality police to govern how people not abuse their power and f**k up the economy, sometimes you can't get s**t done without just getting rid of the problem by force, A.I can help with the process.


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02 Nov 2023, 3:57 pm

I assume this "expert" wasn't an African American or a colonial subject of a European empire?

The sheer eurocentric arrogance is quite something to behold



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02 Nov 2023, 4:16 pm

Probably not a woman, either.


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02 Nov 2023, 4:28 pm

There's really no need to bring identity politics into everything/every thread.

The article makes some good scientific points. I liked the one about artificial lighting, as disruptions to circadian rhythm do cause mood disorders in some people and this is universal across different ethnicities or *gasp* the different sexes.

Considering that people live in homes now which have electricity in the current day, and the use of technology that requires looking into a screen of light is ubiquitous, that alone is a good point.



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02 Nov 2023, 4:31 pm

It’s not really about “identity politics.” If you weren’t a white male in the fifties, life was significantly more depressing then than it is now. It’s just reality.

You can’t make come to such a generalized conclusion based on that amount of evidence. This topic is much more complex than that no matter what a “world expert” says.

The article is clickbaity.


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02 Nov 2023, 4:36 pm

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It’s not really about “identity politics.” If you weren’t a white male in the fifties, life was significantly more depressing then than it is now. It’s just reality.

You can’t make come to such a generalized conclusion based on that amount of evidence. This topic is much more complex than that no matter what a “world expert” says.

The article is clickbaity.


Agreed



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02 Nov 2023, 4:38 pm

blitzkrieg wrote:
There's really no need to bring identity politics into everything/every thread.

The article makes some good scientific points. I liked the one about artificial lighting, as disruptions to circadian rhythm do cause mood disorders in some people and this is universal across different ethnicities or *gasp* the different sexes.

Considering that people live in homes now which have electricity in the current day, and the use of technology that requires looking into a screen of light is ubiquitous, that alone is a good point.


I'm afraid we live in a world (west) where diversity and inclusion is valued. You can't just make blanket conclusions about how everybody would feel over the last 100 years, The premise is erroneous.



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02 Nov 2023, 4:38 pm

The article doesn't approach the topic of ethnicity or which sex a person is.

The content includes (in reference to Philip Gold of the NIH):

"But he believes that everyday conditions are more likely to lead to depression now than in the past.

These take many forms and include a rise in stimuli of all kinds, such as information overload, artificial light, mobile phones, together with increasingly intense social interactions – largely as a result of new technology, for example, angry Twitter exchanges and physical overcrowding."


The article to me strikes me as something which criticises modern life, specifically in relation to technology.

I don't think it was trying to be everything and to include the benefits of being a white male in the 1950's, or any other social commentary related to that.



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02 Nov 2023, 4:40 pm

cyberdad wrote:
blitzkrieg wrote:
There's really no need to bring identity politics into everything/every thread.

The article makes some good scientific points. I liked the one about artificial lighting, as disruptions to circadian rhythm do cause mood disorders in some people and this is universal across different ethnicities or *gasp* the different sexes.

Considering that people live in homes now which have electricity in the current day, and the use of technology that requires looking into a screen of light is ubiquitous, that alone is a good point.


I'm afraid we live in a world (west) where diversity and inclusion is valued. You can't just make blanket conclusions about how everybody would feel over the last 100 years, The premise is erroneous.


"Diversity and inclusion". Clearly, this topic is the cause of all depression, including the biological causes of depression. :roll:



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02 Nov 2023, 4:44 pm

blitzkrieg wrote:
The article doesn't approach the topic of ethnicity or which sex a person is.

The content includes (in reference to Philip Gold of the NIH):

"But he believes that everyday conditions are more likely to lead to depression now than in the past.

These take many forms and include a rise in stimuli of all kinds, such as information overload, artificial light, mobile phones, together with increasingly intense social interactions – largely as a result of new technology, for example, angry Twitter exchanges and physical overcrowding."


The article to me strikes me as something which criticises modern life, specifically in relation to technology.

I don't think it was trying to be everything and to include the benefits of being a white male in the 1950's, or any other social commentary related to that.


Then the good doctor needs to reframe the inference. Its not just ethnicity and gender but also class. I very much doubt a british coal miner in 1923 was as comparitively depressed living in virtual darkness and breathing coal dust compared to one of their descendants living in 1923.



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02 Nov 2023, 4:47 pm

The title to the article is clickbaity and not true in every respect or for all people.

“Modern life is more depressing than at any point in past 100 years, world expert says” That’s simply not true for everyone. I’m sure that I would’ve been more depressed as a woman in the fifties.

Perhaps the title should’ve been: “Certain things that may make modern life more depressing for certain people.”

Of course, such a title probably would attract fewer readers.


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