What would make this feel like the "right planet" for you?

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23 May 2019, 12:09 am

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Cube, hi, just a thought, maybe Alex could help you organise a work project that would be fullfilling for you, he's a developer isn't he?


Alex? The owner of wrongplanet?

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If I were you, which I am obviously not, I would run an ad on social media that would read something like this:

Hi I'm Cube ,
I have Aspergers and I have some really innovative ideas for programming. I love this work but need logistic help (on a voluntary basis ) in order to connect me with potential clients, and assist me in co-ordination and implementation. It would be really great if you have the connections and could help me get started.
Tx Cube


Which social media? And, let's say I do this and no one has any answers for me or refuses to answer my questions (which is my experience) then what?

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Don't know about the U.S. but it would work in my country. It is a well known idea that somes aspies are really exceptionally genius. It would fire their curiosity.


The US is different then there. They expect more independence and pull yourself from your bootstrap.

Basically, you're telling me to do freelancing. I already tried that. It was a flop b/c of I didn't know how to communicate with the customer well and I didn't know what was considered a reasonable price. Finally, customers and employers as well expect a turn around time. I have no clue as to how to come up with that. That was another issue I encountered as well. And, that's due to executive functioning issues.

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I respect your right to choose not to try any more, I read your post and I get it. If you enjoy programming maybe there is a way to dabble in it without needing to deal with the aspects that you find challenging or impossible. For your own enjoyment :D I have great faith in people despite having encountered more than my fair share of assh..es.


Like I said, I don't get satisfaction from it anymore.

Truth is, I've already tried a number of the things that suggested to me. Either my executive dysfunction got in the way or I had no clue as to how to proceed any further. And, when I tried to look things up as Fnord suggested it was like telling me to draw a door if I want help (from the movie beetlejuice). And, employers in this day and age go by personality first and foremost and their attitude is personality is forever and can't be changed.

What Fnorders and others don't get is I've done my homework already. And, then I looked inward. I examined my entire past from elementary school onward to the present. I examined all of the events in my life that I remembered them, examined my own actions and reactions including but not limited to how I would love something for a while and then it became stale and I compared them to what employers wanted and what it took to run a business. And I one day out of curiosity googled the percentage of disabled who were employed. Found the Bureau of Labor Statistics and realized the truth no one really mentions in the whole optimism, positivity, you can do anything you set your mind to thing. Looking at my own personality in addition to my aspergers/autism, what I knew I knew, what I knew I didn't understand, understanding that there were things I don't know that I do not understand and my desires I realized after collating all of this my chances of success under these current conditions was very slim.



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23 May 2019, 3:09 am

I see. Then all that remains is to focus on being productive in a way that suits you and try and make each day as pleasant as possible. Imo NT's are unaware of the challenges people with high functioning ASD face, it is difficult to accept that aspies with such high intelligence are not able to do some seemingly simple tasks, whilst on the other hand seeming so intellectally competent. It is confusing.

This reminds me of when my son was at elementary school, he has severe ADHD, looks completely normative and his teacher (horrors) would rant and rave and
tell me he was deliberately ignoring her or not doing his homework. She knew better than the diagnosis of his screening, and wouldn't accept his disability as authentic. I told my son to respect her, but that he should know that the teacher does not understand his difficulties, is not God and not important at all in the grand scheme of things. I fought the system until he finished the nightmare that is school.


Forget all the dictates of society that are unacceptable or impossible for you and fill your life with what is good for you. Think of the half full cup, not what you lack, but what you are priviliged with. The things we take for granted, sight, mobility, cognitive ability, family support, a roof over our heads even medical care and nutrition. Most of the world's population live in much worse conditions than we do. :heart:


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23 May 2019, 7:26 am

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I think to be on the right planet, people would need to be into stuff waaayyy more.
Peopke on this eaeh are interested in things, but tgeir interest is so shallow and narrow... Usually Wikipedia knows more about whatever it is tgey like thab they do, and reading an article there is more in depth than sking a person about their most favourite thing in tge world/profession etc.

Yes!

I remember, when I was in my teens and twenties, being unpleasantly surprised by various people I met who shared an interest of mine but didn't want to talk about it. I was also surprised by the many people I ran into who didn't seem to be very interested in anything at all. I've always felt sorry for the latter people, who seemed to me to be missing out on some of the greatest joys in life.

Then, in late 2008, I met the man who later became my boyfriend, and who had been diagnosed with what was then called Asperger's syndrome. This was the first time I had heard of AS, and his description of it sounded a lot like me too.

Curious, I Googled it, and was shocked to discover that one of the diagnostic criteria was: "encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus."

My immediate reaction was anger that what I thought of as the source of my greatest joys in life was being described as somehow pathological. I also wondered how the authors of the DSM ever managed to get through grad school without this trait.


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23 May 2019, 8:03 am

cubedemon6073 wrote:
Basically, you're telling me to do freelancing. I already tried that. It was a flop b/c of I didn't know how to communicate with the customer well and I didn't know what was considered a reasonable price. Finally, customers and employers as well expect a turn around time. I have no clue as to how to come up with that. That was another issue I encountered as well. And, that's due to executive functioning issues.

In my opinion, what many autistic programmers may need is, first, an opportunity to work together (from home, communicating online) with other autistic programmers on free open-source projects (without pay), and THEN to organize into small cooperative businesses that seek clients and work together on paid projects, perhaps with help from an NT relative or friend of one of the programmers who handles most of the sales stuff.

What do you think of this idea?


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23 May 2019, 1:30 pm

Society and women seeing disabled low paid men as dateable. I’d just like to be loved like any other human.


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23 May 2019, 1:46 pm

They are dateable. Many of these types of folks date. And many are married, too.

That's a fact.



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23 May 2019, 2:08 pm

Mona Pereth wrote:
cubedemon6073 wrote:
Basically, you're telling me to do freelancing. I already tried that. It was a flop b/c of I didn't know how to communicate with the customer well and I didn't know what was considered a reasonable price. Finally, customers and employers as well expect a turn around time. I have no clue as to how to come up with that. That was another issue I encountered as well. And, that's due to executive functioning issues.

In my opinion, what many autistic programmers may need is, first, an opportunity to work together (from home, communicating online) with other autistic programmers on free open-source projects (without pay), and THEN to organize into small cooperative businesses that seek clients and work together on paid projects, perhaps with help from an NT relative or friend of one of the programmers who handles most of the sales stuff.

What do you think of this idea?


I think that's a kick ass idea



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23 May 2019, 2:36 pm

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Fewer trolls.
Fewer snowflakes.
Fewer pop-up and banner ads.



This. ^

Plus, perhaps people could actually discuss autism instead of sex and masturbation.


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23 May 2019, 2:38 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Fewer trolls.
Fewer snowflakes.
Fewer pop-up and banner ads.



This. ^

Plus, perhaps people could actually discuss autism instead of sex and masturbation.


You do know that he considers me to be a snowflake?

What would be better for me? To finally find love without having to become a "bad boy" but I am considered a "loser" instead.



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23 May 2019, 4:48 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Fewer trolls. Fewer snowflakes. Fewer pop-up and banner ads.
This. ^
Plus, perhaps people could actually discuss autism instead of sex and masturbation.
I've reported the more explicit (and thus more disgusting) threads on these and other topics, but some members seem obsessed -- they keep posting new threads on these same stupid topics!

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23 May 2019, 7:00 pm

cubedemon6073 wrote:
Mona Pereth wrote:
In my opinion, what many autistic programmers may need is, first, an opportunity to work together (from home, communicating online) with other autistic programmers on free open-source projects (without pay), and THEN to organize into small cooperative businesses that seek clients and work together on paid projects, perhaps with help from an NT relative or friend of one of the programmers who handles most of the sales stuff.

What do you think of this idea?


I think that's a kick ass idea


Let's discuss it further in a separate thread here, where it's more on-topic.


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23 May 2019, 8:51 pm

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Society and women seeing disabled low paid men as dateable. I’d just like to be loved like any other human.


I can be your main squeeze if you like. :mrgreen:

Mate, luv is over-rated.
It is a young man's folly.
In all probability, when you get to my age you will laugh about it. :mrgreen:

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Plus, perhaps people could actually discuss autism instead of sex and masturbation.


A lot of us naughty auties ain't getting it anywhere else. :mrgreen:



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23 May 2019, 9:54 pm

I sometimes wonder if I ever had a purpose but I was either born into the wrong place or I was meant to present a new voice in the Bible Belt but I was shot down instead of accepted.



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23 May 2019, 11:51 pm

cubedemon6073 wrote:
Mona Pereth wrote:
cubedemon6073 wrote:
Basically, you're telling me to do freelancing. I already tried that. It was a flop b/c of I didn't know how to communicate with the customer well and I didn't know what was considered a reasonable price. Finally, customers and employers as well expect a turn around time. I have no clue as to how to come up with that. That was another issue I encountered as well. And, that's due to executive functioning issues.

In my opinion, what many autistic programmers may need is, first, an opportunity to work together (from home, communicating online) with other autistic programmers on free open-source projects (without pay), and THEN to organize into small cooperative businesses that seek clients and work together on paid projects, perhaps with help from an NT relative or friend of one of the programmers who handles most of the sales stuff.

What do you think of this idea?


I think that's a kick ass idea



It really is a kick-ass idea isn't it?


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24 May 2019, 12:48 am

One example would be having people change their minds when I show them errors in their logic. Last year, I learned that ship's propellers are designed using the Betz limit, not the Froude equations as they should be. This is handy in harbour, but costs 20% more fuel overall. None of the marine architects I have written care. There are dozens of others. I'm even having a practice debate with a flat earther these days.



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One example would be having people change their minds when I show them errors in their logic...
Well, good luck with that. I tried convincing some colleagues that JFET technology was better for analog signals than BJT technology, and vice-versa for incremental (digital) technology. But no, someone had about a thousand BJTs stashed away, and demonstrated that their idea would work. By the time I got funding for my JFET idea, the BJT device was approved for the prototype stage. Even though I was able to demonstrate that my idea used 23% fewer components to achieve the same function, they went with the BJT design simply because it got there first.

Me no happy.