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16 Jun 2011, 12:41 pm

There are things lot of us (everyone including NTs) don't understand such as parenting choices parents make but we cannot learn about it by asking why they do it. We are to stay ignorant and not ask or else we are judging them if we ask. People do not want us to know, they want us to be ignorant.



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17 Jun 2011, 3:59 am

#1012

Money does NOT buy appreciation, respect or love
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Money does NOT buy appreciation, respect or love it does exactly the opposite



If you shower someone with expensive gifts, money... NT's will assume you are so desperate for love and they will see it as manipulation. They will soon lose all respect, appreciation or love that they might have had before and in some cases they will start to take advantage of your "kindness".


Gifts can be made (and in some cases should be) but do it with moderation, try to develop a common sence.



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17 Jun 2011, 4:28 am

#1012

Be mysterious, NT's like mystery and don't want to know every detail of your life (even if they ask for it) especially when you first meet them.

As trust gradually builds up (and trust for NT's can take some time) you can reveal pieces of private information about your life but never ever tell EVERYTHING, it will backfire you one way or another.



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19 Jun 2011, 5:51 pm

rudeandnotginger wrote:
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3. How are you isn't literal, you are suppose to say "fine" then "How are you?" back.

I'm still learning this one :lol:


Why? If all they want from such an exchange is a pre-assigned answer that they already know you're going to give them, then what's the point? Why initiate an interaction at all? Or, better yet, why not ask something which they would actually like to know the answer to?



Rudeandnotginger, you just proved that you're an Aspie! :D

Back around 1960, Robert A Heinlein discussed this briefly in recounting the mental processes of a man raised by Martians, in "Stranger in a Strange Land". Maybe RAH was even an Aspie? Going into it a bit further, if just saying "fine" when you're not bothers you (it still bothers me, and I'm 67!) you can pass it off with some kind of humor, like "Puttin' one foot in front t'other" (my usual routine) or "Surviving" -- and once when I used that one, a woman got all upset, thinking I was saying that I had something terminal, which brings up the exception to the rule: doctors and nurses really _do_ want to know how you are, and possibly a close friend who knows you've been sick. But then they'll probably say something like "How are you today?".

Then you add, "And you?" after you've said "Fine", just to show that you're friendly and at least mildly concerned with their state of health-- that's in the "social sound" context, not after you've finished telling the doctor your symptoms today.



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20 Jun 2011, 3:22 am

Kabulanolak wrote:
#1012

Be mysterious, NT's like mystery and don't want to know every detail of your life (even if they ask for it) especially when you first meet them.

As trust gradually builds up (and trust for NT's can take some time) you can reveal pieces of private information about your life but never ever tell EVERYTHING, it will backfire you one way or another.


I agree, I'm still trying to do this one. I also used to advise friends on that keeping your secrets to yourself thing. Any time I've ever worried about anything and told someone about it they would eventually use it against me when we had a fight or argument. There are very few people in this world, maybe none, who will not throw insults about something that really bothers you back out at you in the heat of a disagreement.



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20 Jun 2011, 10:06 am

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If people ask how you feel and you answer, you have to ask them, how they feel.
:wink:

I learned that today. Someone asked me: "How do you feel?"
I: "Good". Wanted to go.
He: "Do you don`t want to know how I feel?"
I: "Uh, no?"
He: "No? But that`s rude!"
:roll:

The funny thing; we aren`t friends or something like that!


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20 Jun 2011, 10:22 am

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When talking to an NT, stand at least 50 cm (around 20 inches) away from them otherwise they'll feel that you're being rude/harassing and intruding upon their space. The exceptions to this rule are when you're in a place that's normally crowded or has small space, such as inside an elevator and public transport.



To make it any easier, stand at least an arm length away. (Some people are bad at inches)


League_girl

People have different arm lengths from each other. Do you mean I should stand my own arm's length away or their arm's length away?



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20 Jun 2011, 10:28 am

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Just because a store closes at a certain time or just because a restaurant or any places closes at a certain time doesn't mean you can come in right before they close rather it's five minutes or a half hour. Employees don't like staying late past their working hour. No pizza delivery person would want to deliver a pizza past their shift nor want to cook a pizza and they do not like it when people call them when they are close to closing to order a pizza because they have to cook it which means they would have to work past their shift when it had ended. No waiter or waitress and the cooks would want customers coming in shortly before closing because they have to cook the food and serve it to you and that makes them go past their shift.

Cashiers in stores are forced to stay until the last customer leaves.

Well that is why you see places that say they do do certain things past a certain time like the DMV near me does not do written tests when it's an hour before closing or a laundry mat near me has a sign saying do not start a load past eight o clock and they close at nine. I am sure there are restaurants that say they do not take orders past a certain time.


I dunno if I have posted this but I'll say it anyway, when staying at a hotel or a condo, do not trash it like leave lot of trash there or make it real messy because the room attendants have a time limit to clean rooms and they are not allowed to leave work until all their rooms are cleaned so if a room is real messy, it makes them take longer to clean it and it can make them go over time. I've worked at hotels and I learned this and I saw how frustrating it was how inconsiderate guests can be. Even though I wasn't the one to clean rooms but I still saw it and felt sorry for the room attendants because I cannot imagine that happening to me. Even though sometimes I see a room and the guests were considerate enough to have all the trash in a pile to make it easier for the room attendant or have all the dirty towels in a pile but I still wish they dump their own trash than leaving it in the room. It has to be hauled down to the dumpsters and that takes time away from cleaning. So the less trash they get, the less often they have to get a new trash bag to put more garbage in. That's why some hotels have extra workers that take the dirty linen and trash so the room attendants wouldn't have to do it but not all hotels have that. Usually the more expensive ones do like the Hilton because they are expecting lot of linen and trash and want to make it easier for their room attendants by having employees who will take it for them to save them the time. But leaving the room very messy and trashy still takes away the room attendants time because it takes them longer to clean it. I have helped strip out rooms and taking out the trash when I worked there. Didn't bother me but I couldn't believe how inconsiderate people can be. I then understood why my own dad always wanted to take out our own trash before we check out and didn't want to leave the whole room messy and wanted everything in the bathroom. My husband is the same way too except he won't leave any trash in there no matter how little it is. He just throws it away outside in the outside trash can.


I did not know all of this when I stayed at motels. I did not know it may take them longer and they would have to go overtime.



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20 Jun 2011, 10:29 am

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Be careful when you say "good luck." People can take that as a negative meaning.


Are you serious? I never knew this? Do you have any specific examples?



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20 Jun 2011, 10:30 am

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Do not vent about your problems over and over and not taking anyone's advice. It doesn't matter if you find their advice useless and unhelpful but if you vent about your same issues over and over, it will annoy people and upset them and soon they will think you are doing it for attention and sympathy.

If it's about another person you're having issues with or had issues with, people will think you are bullying and gossiping or think you're on a witch hunt.


Pretty much, if you find their advice useless and unhelpful then the best thing to do is move on? Am I correct?



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20 Jun 2011, 10:35 am

This is especially true in America

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Do not put any blame on anyone or anything like circumstances or situations for anything that has happened to you. You have to transform that around into an I statement and make it seem like you're taking the blame even if you think it is the other person's fault or anything else's fault. This is part of the American People's values. People here believe in an internal locust of control.



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20 Jun 2011, 10:46 am

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Let other people be wrong. Even if their posts are full of spelling and grammar mistakes, and they have their facts wrong, let it stand. If you correct them, they won't believe you, and they'll resent you for it.


I believe it is because you're hurting their pride.



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20 Jun 2011, 11:06 am

When looking around, don't just use your eyes. Turn your head with your eyes if the movement is greater than 10 degrees. This is a sign of confidence (ya, don't ask me why).

When you look away, look to the side. Looking down is a sign of submission and looking up of 'spacing out'.

Try to avoid bring up past relationships with current partners. If they ask, don't go into detail. Give a brief (very brief!) timeline. Other people seem to be able to get away with doing this (women, at least), but don't let that fool you...



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20 Jun 2011, 12:30 pm

cubedemon6073 wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Amajanshi wrote:
When talking to an NT, stand at least 50 cm (around 20 inches) away from them otherwise they'll feel that you're being rude/harassing and intruding upon their space. The exceptions to this rule are when you're in a place that's normally crowded or has small space, such as inside an elevator and public transport.



To make it any easier, stand at least an arm length away. (Some people are bad at inches)


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People have different arm lengths from each other. Do you mean I should stand my own arm's length away or their arm's length away?


Your own arm length I believe.



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20 Jun 2011, 12:34 pm

Kabulanolak wrote:
#1012

Money does NOT buy appreciation, respect or love
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Money does NOT buy appreciation, respect or love it does exactly the opposite



If you shower someone with expensive gifts, money... NT's will assume you are so desperate for love and they will see it as manipulation. They will soon lose all respect, appreciation or love that they might have had before and in some cases they will start to take advantage of your "kindness".


Gifts can be made (and in some cases should be) but do it with moderation, try to develop a common sence.


True except that stuff always made me uncomfortable. It's great to get spoiled but it still makes me feel like I am taking advantage of them. I also hear they sometimes do it as a test to see if you will decline it or accept it to see what kind of person you are. If you accept them, then it means you are taking advantage, if you decline them, it means you don't want them for gifts and you want them for them.



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20 Jun 2011, 12:36 pm

cubedemon6073 wrote:
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Be careful when you say "good luck." People can take that as a negative meaning.


Are you serious? I never knew this? Do you have any specific examples?


It's a little like the same principle as sarcasm, but not hostile (to me, sarcasm always seems at least a little hostile). It's negative, in that they think there's no way that you are going to be able to _do_ whatever, but aren't going to say that. They're actually wishing you good luck at it, but don't really think that any amount of luck is going to help. "It'll take a miracle!"

The clue to which way it's meant is in facial expression/bodylanguage, and I'm not good at those either, so can't describe how it's done. Best for an Aspie (who also probably can't _do_ the expression) to just not say it in the first place, unless they really mean just plain "Good luck!". In e-mail, even an emoticon can't do it, or if it can, I don't know which one, but it's the kind of reason people use emoticons.



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