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20 Oct 2011, 10:29 am

I'm doing a project on autism in schools and how they are being more or less inclusive of students with autism and what they do to help (or hurt) them. I must ask, what were (are) your experiences with the school system as someone with autism? Like, were they supportive, did they give you the support you needed, etc. Any help would be appreciated, I just wanted to do some more personal research is all =D



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20 Oct 2011, 11:56 am

Teach children much much more about neurology, and personal differences in others. Ethics, and a broad view of spirituality

This will never happen.

The one-size-fits-all, UN model, is a conditioning device much like communist China

Neurodiversity is actively being breed out by UN policies, sort of like an Orwellian Brave New World looking forward hundreds of years from now.



At the end of the day, your school may in actuality be appearing to be wanting to be helpful to autistics, but their true agenda may be something quite darkly different.

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20 Oct 2011, 12:24 pm

School was complete hell for me. I was mentally and emotionally abused by the teacher's aid when I was in Grade 3. I was repeatedly dragged into the girl's bathroom by that witch and she ordered me to go to the bathroom and than the b***h would try to force me into the stall that had the smallest toilet for the kids who were in Kindergarten and Grade 1. I'd end up having horrible meltdowns, telling that woman that I didn't have to go to the bathroom and that she was scaring me. I told my mum about it and my dad phoned the school and told Mrs. Nestman which was the aid's name not to drag me into the bathroom and yell at me, anymore. The reason that woman did that to me was becuase I had 1 accident when I was in Grade 2. Just one isolated accident. I got that witch back by calling Dollar Nestman, Nestman Quarter and Wayne Gretzky.


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20 Oct 2011, 12:38 pm

To call school an absolutely worthless bag of garbage is an understatement. If I ever become really rich, I will purchase it so as I can demolish it.



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20 Oct 2011, 12:46 pm

Surfman Wrote:

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Teach children much much more about neurology, and personal differences in others. Ethics, and a broad view of spirituality

This will never happen.

The one-size-fits-all, UN model, is a conditioning device much like communist China

Neurodiversity is actively being breed out by UN policies, sort of like an Orwellian Brave New World looking forward hundreds of years from now.



At the end of the day, your school may in actuality be appearing to be wanting to be helpful to autistics, but their true agenda may be something quite darkly different.

Welcome to hell kiddies


This is a good post, school is built upon conformity and groupthink, to an Aspie like me who is analytical, thinks as an individual, and dosen't like to follow social rules. The current model is the absolute antithesis to what we would be suited to. It's interesting that you believe that the UN are responsible for this, I will look into this.



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20 Oct 2011, 2:56 pm

For me school wasn't that horrible and offensive. Group thinking wasn't welcomed back then in the communist era, just try to imagine freely thinking individuals forming groups within the constraints of that system and you'll see... :wink:

So, most of the time I passed as a gifted although badly hyperactive kid with utterly challenging behavioral issues (including scuffling with peers and running before cars, true, I read the notes).

Creativity isn't the strongest point of educational systems that are built around the Prussian traditions anyway.

My mother, being a teacher herself, did her best at bringing me up, and my father was also very supportive. Honestly, I haven't experienced much bullying after I calmed down a little, since I was meticulously taught to ignore rude comments and behaviors directed at me. So I wasn't that fun in this respect in the eyes of my peers, that's why most likely they ignored me altogether. :)

Today, here in North-Balkan that's called Hungary (aka East-Center Europe) our education system is more crappy than ever, set out on a more-than-ever conformist path by the national-populists. Since the whole society suffers from general lack of moral extremist views are sprouting like mushroom. :x


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20 Oct 2011, 3:48 pm

Whosinabunker wrote:
I'm doing a project on autism in schools and how they are being more or less inclusive of students with autism and what they do to help (or hurt) them. I must ask, what were (are) your experiences with the school system as someone with autism? Like, were they supportive, did they give you the support you needed, etc. Any help would be appreciated, I just wanted to do some more personal research is all =D


Eh. I hate school. I've always been a fast learner, grasped concepts easily, and never really had any trouble academically, but I've always had problems with school itself, as it simply isn't designed for people like us. The social aspect was Hell, especially since I didn't find value in lot of stuff other kids did (during recess I stayed to myself and my imagination, not playing any of the sports), and as school went on most of my friends moved away, and different interests caused me to grow away from the rest of them until I had no friends. Since I've gotten into Highschool the social aspect has gotten a lot better and I now have friends and a stable social life, but I've had to come a long way and go through a lot of emotional pain. I only had problem with bullying in highschool, but that's probably because it wasn't worth it to try to do anything to me as I always overreacted and got into quite a bit of fights until I guess people were afraid to mess with me, and bullying was frowned upon in all of the places I've been among most of the student body, while middle schoolers are just stupid jerks in general and even though they didn't get physical (except for the one time I got into a fight with someone in the grade ahead of me) with me they taunted me as they enjoyed my unneeded for reactions, and through out Middle School I worked on self control so now I'm pretty forgiving and mild. Middle school was also the only grade where I had no siblings with me at my school (at one point all six children in my family were going to different schools/schooling programs for various reasons), and I've always looked to my older brother for guidance.

In elementary school I refused to do a lot of the work as I simply found no reason to do it and it was a waste of time. I never had any need to study when I was younger, so now when I need to study for History I'm off pretty poorly as I have no study skills. It was my shear stubbornness that got me into Algebra in the 5th grade. My stubbornness gave me trouble in English as I refused to do unnescary writing when I could just use editing marks, and I refused to follow most prompts, so I was pulled out of normal English for two years as I simply couldn't fit into the class. I also had several complete rage break downs (are these meltdowns in elementary school, and a few in Middle school as I refused to comply with with teacher orders and things just escalated.

My first school system provided an enrichment program for gifted kids, and that was the only part of school I enjoyed, as the work was boring and it was slightly hard, and I got to be with my older brother and other smart people. Some of the work I refused to do as I felt it pointless to do ordinary work when I was doing the gifted work. In the school I went to in eighth grade gifted students got an entirely different set of classes, and I found not being in class with any abusive idiots great. There was no gifted program when I came into the high-school I'm in now, but my family alone has sort of changed that. Now they have a formal program for John Hopkins Courses, though what I really want is a chance to be with other gifted kids, and pretty much the only time for that within the school system is with the insanely expensive trips for MUN. Somehow we managed to get me to go without actually paying, and while I was there I had a great time and even sort of made some friends there. Now my mother is one of the headmaster's advisers and is trying to get the school to pay for one highschool trip of the students choice as there is an associates fee, and if you pay the fee the school is supposed to pay for trips, but there is no academic highschool trips due to alcohol abuse or something like that and they won't cover extracurricular trips.

I'm an A/B student, and I could better if it wasn't that my work habits aren't very good and I don't put a lot of effort into school. I've also had a few teachers who I just couldn't get along with and their teaching style and the type of work they assigned, so I did worse in their classes.

I was diagnosed in the 3rd(?) grade, and in the fourth grade I was out of normal English, and during the time a alotted for English I just sat in the corner of the "slow" english class, as I wasn't a part of that English class as I was above average at English and everything related to it, but they couldn't put me in the normal English class as I refused to do the work and I got had too many meltdowns(?) during the class. I just wrote my own stories and obscure poetry, and drew video game concept art. In the fifth grade I was moved to the school in the district with the program for Autistics, and the move was very hard on me. I was only barely in the program, and all I really did in it was a few things related "mind reading" and a few misclenious English assignments during the time that most people had English and I worked on my Algebra course in the special room as well. In Middle School I went to the only Middle School in the district with "Skills Classes" and Geometry, and the Skills classes were used as one of my electives and I sort of hated it as I found it shameful, I didn't get half of the electives, and it was the only class that I found hard in the slightest. I got out of the classes after the first Semester of 7th grade. While I was in that Middle School I had to ride one of the "short buses" and that was traumatizing. I think I still sometimes have nightmares related to that. As the special education kids caused me so much pain I sometimes tormented them as revenge, and now I can't forgive myself for what I have done. I only wish I could set things right, make things up. In the eighth grade I went to a different Middle School, and all that happened to me is the counselor occasionally spoke with me, and I assured her everything was alright. I now have nothing, though I still have an IEP that doesn't actually do anything, and I only really have it as there are some technical advantages to having an IEP, regardless of the content.

I probably said too much, but you asked for my personal school experience, so here it is.



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20 Oct 2011, 4:15 pm

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I never had any need to study when I was younger, so now when I need to study for History I'm off pretty poorly as I have no study skills.

I had this problem, too. I got the worst of it at the Uni.