Lots of words...

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I'm finding that people who use a lot of words in their speech confuse me. I have to spend a lot of time trying to sort out the actual information from all the surrounding qualifiers, excuses, hyperbole, vague stuff & tend to get lost in the process. The world is beginning to break down into people who speak briefly & succinctly, & those that babble meaningless drivel w/little actual useful content. Do others have this experience?

Also, do people find their need for clear information brings them into conflict w/some folks? I find that when I try to clarify what someone said, or get an actual answer beyond "It'll be fine" a lot of people get pissed off at me.

I find in a lot of situations I give a lot more information than is necessary, to the point of burying my intended statement without actually communicating anything of substance. You might classify me as babbling "meaningless drivel" but when that happens I am trying very hard to communicate useful information.

I don't understand people when they speak lots of words, eggspecially if the words are vague, and the sentences are vague, and the idears are vague. Vague and general, I don't understand. Specific eggsamples, I understand well. I understand people when they speak few words, preferably just nouns and verbs, not even complete grammatical sentences, to get to the point of what we are talking about. In other words, I wish that people would speak in computer code and from mind maps. Then, I would understand what they are talking about.

Also, my speech processing has a quota of words, and beyond this quota, I stop understanding what people are saying, so it is bestest for me to hear as few words as possible to continue understanding the meanings of the words.

I also find I go into more detail than is needed sometimes... I think that might be a contributing factor to my short & succinct statements. I do find I often go back & correct postings to be more clear or precise. Sometimes when others get involved in being superaccurate, I do tune them out. Sometimes it's also helpful. Just depends on the opening sentence, I think. The qualifiers are vague, feeling-based, tangential words & phrases.

I think a lot of NTs use language to address the assumed feelings of the other person & that's meaningless in my case, as feelings are generally not involved or very different from what they assume. So it's extraneous noise that I have to sort through to find the actual data.



Yes, exactly. Tho' I don't think I would go so far as coding. But I can appreciate how that might simplify things.

Here's an example. A friend translated one of my sentences into a sentence he might use.

Mine:
"Is asking for more information the same as expecting others to accommodate me?"

His:
"I'm sorry if I led you to take anything I said as my needing anyone to accommodate my diet. I understand the difficulties that are entailed in providing meals at retreats and am really not looking for that. Rather I am hopeful that, through my questions to you, I can get better clarity as to what I might need to send or bring to supplement my diet and your assistance with your help is most appreciated!"

Which, if I were on the receiving end of that, would just leave me looking at the person, wondering what their question was.

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Huh?! That second sentence would leave me somewhat puzzled! I tend to be very literal and direct when speaking, but I do tend to ramble on when I am writing because I have found that people can read things I have written and understand them differently to how I meant them. So I suppose I end up over-explaining, or going off on a tangent. Also, I've quite a fondness for smiley faces, which I can't use when I'm talking, so they kind of make up for the lack of expression when I'm talking to people......maybe!

In this discussion, I realize there is a difference for me between those who give overly detailed explanation (the folks here) which may just bore me & those who talk but convey no useful data, such as that second sentence. The first group is data rich, I'm just not interested, & the second group is nutrient deprived.

Also, realized maybe my abruptness was due to not switching speeds when going from interior, high-speed processing to speaking? Short data bursts make for abrupt, seemingly rude speech?

I have more of a problem with lots of written words. Sometimes members on here write what I can only describe as "walls of words" with few if any paragraph breaks in them. I find such posts very off-putting and tend to just read the first and last line, completely missing the 50 lines in between.

Me, too. Especially when the grammar/spelling are poor.

Wow, socially appropriate gobbledegook!

Well said!