My brother might have to go to jail, I think he has ADHD/AS?

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My 1/2 brother has ADHD and is probably on the spectrum as I am. He might have to do a minimum of 3 years in prison for supposedly growing pot. I just read that he was arrested for this online.. No one in my family has discussed this with me since I have been away so long and live very far away. I just knew years ago he liked to smoke it, that's all.. and I thought he had quit... I wish there was some book out there (and maybe there is?) about how to best handle oneself in prison? to avoid getting into fights or rape... etc... I just read this study from the 70's that said of the 47 million that were in prison, 10 million of them were most likely raped?? That can't be right can it?? I don't want my brother to get a disease like HIV or to be maimed or killed.. Do they allow visitors to bring condoms just in case they are needed? Maybe those statistics just aren't right... My brother has long hair pulled back in a pony tail and he's good looking... maybe he should cut his hair? I don't want him strutting into prison thinking he's tough and running into these gangbanger guys

I wish there was a book with practical advice on this stuff out there for a guy that knows in the near future he may have to do some hard time... Well, I don't know if he'll be put into a minimum security prison or not.. I guess "hard time" is for maximum? My brother has a hot temper and I'm concerned about that. The martial arts training could hopefully help him, but it could get him into more trouble too -- I just don't want him raped, given a disease or scarred up/injured... actually, sometimes you hear of prisoners even being killed.. I'm just really worried in general..

I actually happened upon the news article about a week ago about his arrest online.. All I know is what I read on the internet news article, that's all I know about this. I live over 500 miles away from all of this.. and when I visited Christmas, no one even told me anything.. It was after I got back home, that I found out he had been arrested like over 3 months ago! No One told me anything.. now I know.. but they don't know that I know.. They must not want me to know because maybe they think I wouldn't be able to handle it.. So here I am, coming to grips with this all alone.. except for a forum online .. I guess I should call and tell them I know now.... OR maybe I should just live my own life and not worry anymore?

I saw a couple of segments of that show OZ.. and it looked horrible... My brother has never been to prison, not even for 30 days... but could end up there for 2 years or more.. I just can't imagine that... I think after the initial shock of this wears off, I should call my mother and talk with her about it.. so far, she has refused to tell me what's wrong.. Now, I know.. unless it's TWO separate problems.. I imagine by now, she's probably dumped a whole lot of her retirement money into his bail/defense, etc.. Anyway, I appreciate your replies. Thanks..

he should not strut in and act like he is king of the place. cos that will make the convicts angry. i would hope that his cellmate will show him the ropes (this might not happen)
he should not move into any gang territory that he is not a part of. when guns go off, if it has nothing to do with you, get down. lay low and don't get involved if it is nothing to do with you or your group.

it is scary how easily they can attack each other. if he does feel he is the target of a hit, he could always request protective custody. he will lose respect of the other inmates but he will get to go home at the end of his term.

I have seen this stuff on America's Hardest Prisons on National Geographic.

This is my thoughts ,
Maybe Try to get a doctor saying he needs to be in a mental health setting, and not fit to be with the greneral population. And

that If he is to be mixed with the greneral population he would undoutable be at a higher risk of personal harm do to mental

imparmemt and inability to protect him self from bodly harm. He needs to be under protective custoudy. But the down side of

this is that I hear that it is like solitary confindment with very little or no human contact. Go get legal help!! !

I know that if it was me, I might not even know what area is a gang territory or not.. I would try not to get near the meaner-looking people though.. I heard or saw in a movie once, that you can't afford to be alone in a prison environment.. I would instinctively want to be alone and probably want to be as far away from people as I could... That could single me out as a target though... I just have no idea what it would be like... Some say that rape, etc.. isn't as common as they show in the movies, but then I just read that study from the 70's that says basically that 1 in 5 prisoners are raped?? that can't be right?? i hope not......?

Yeah, that would be better if wasn't with the general population... I don't think he's nearly as much on the spectrum as I am though.. There has just been some times that he seems to make social mistakes like I would and loose things and he's had trouble with keeping jobs too.. I just wonder if he is on the spectrum or not and since he hasn't been tested, I don't know for sure... I might just be thinking that he is, and maybe he's just got ADHD.. If he is on the spectrum though.. God help him in prison... I don't think ANYONE with an autistic spectrum disorder should be with the general population in prison...

Also, I want to thank the other people that posted replies to my old thread that accidently got deleted... especially Rob Somebody, for sharing some of your personal story. Sorry the thread got deleted, I had meant to reply to your posts too.. Thanks again everyone.. Any advice is appreciated... I might be more worried about his prison term at this point than he is... I think he's still in denial over the whole thing.....

A lot of the time prisoners are allowed to lock themselves in their cells; let's hope they give him a cell by himself.

If he felt safer, he could ask a guard to put him in solitary, and if he got depressed from being in solitary he would be eligable to be on the medical range, or mental hospital wing, or whatever they call it.

I wonder if there's been any research on how many people in prison have a learning disability or who are on the autistic spectrum? I imagine there are quite alot of people with ADHD there... I think any prisoner should get not only the regular psychological tests and screening, but also neuropsych testing as well..

Hopefully, he would be able to request solitary.. I was reading where certain minimum security prisons (if that's where he ends up going) have military-style bunk beds and like 10 inmates to a room. Ideally, it would be good to feel fairly safe around your cellmates and be able to talk with them as opposed to being completely alone.. but if there is just 2 per cell, and you have a cellmate that is scary to be around, I can see where solitary would be a good option there..

I think someone had mentioned before that being in a mental facility is better (less dangerous) than being in a regular prison environment? He's been seeing a psychiatrist now for over a year, so maybe he could go there instead...

i have seen prisons where they have a dorm type setup with something like 120 people in a big gym type room. and others where they have a section for people under going treatment for mental health conditions. I would think that it would be better for him to be in the mental health section.
a single cell would be best as well.

There's this program that shows younger kids (teenagers) a real prison and what it would be like if they don't change their life... I think the program is called "Scared Straight"... ? Anyway, I know that my half-brother has never seen the inside of a real prison... He's only been to jail a couple of times on minor charges... Now, he might have to do like 3 years or more... He has a bad back too and I think they just give you these little thin mattresses like they have at camp to sleep on... He's also the type that's always been overly concerned with germs... he doesn't even like to eat at a restaurant buffet because of all the germs from other people digging into the bowls and such... Prison will be difficult for him... I hope maybe he can be put into a mental area.... hopefully, it seems like that would be better.... I hope...

Some people are put in there just because they feel very amxious or depressed; some are in there for months.

I would recomend him getting looked at to see if he really does have AS and if he does getting him Diagnosed. Aspies in prison is a high number (this is my As obsession!!) due to their lack of social skills, failure to understand consequences (as opposed to right and wrong), desperate to make friends and anger at the world. I hope your brother can get some counselling in prison I know in Victoria Australia where I live as long as it isn't a maximum security prison rehabilitation programs are promoted and available. I am hoping to start up a young adult (18-32) support group here in my area and if it goes well possibly starting up a support group in the prison near here if there is enough aspies there.

if he does go to prison and cant handle it, all he has to do is be insobourdenant. they'll seperate him from the rest of the general population usually for months at a time. i like being alone so this would be heaven to me

Hey Catster2, do you have links for info. on Aspies in Prison? I was thinking it might be a high number too.. and there's probably alot of people in prison with learning disabilities too for the very reasons you mentioned...

I'm wondering if there's ever been research into the percentage of people with autistic spectrum disorders or learning disabilities that are in prison... and what they did or how long they are in prison for... This has become one of my interests as well...

I wonder if they end up being put in solitary confinement alot of the times or if they are the victim of assault or rape more often that the general prison population.. There may not have been many studies done on this because I kept trying to find it out by using google and didn't have much luck.. If you have any info. or links on this, I'd appreciate it.

~L

I'm thinking he should probably cut off his pony tail? and work-out extensively to where he's alot physically stronger than he is? If there was a book on prison survival, I'd buy it for him too...

He'll end up probably going to a prison in another city, hundreds of miles away -- I wouldn't be able to visit very often, but I guess I could bring him things he needs then... I just hope he'll be alright.. Today I just read about a new disease spreading among gay men -- a staph infection that isn't treatable with regular antibiotics.. it can be deadly too.. I wonder if it's the family and people who love the convicted that suffer the most from worry alone... maybe it won't be as bad as I fear....

http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNe ... 5820080114

There are prison survival sites you can go to. Quite a few of them.

First question would be what state?

Non-violent, drug charge, minimum security, first offense, out in less than a year, or probation.

In the modern world there are security cameras everywhere.

You folks watch too much TV. This is not triple life in Marion, it is a little weed beef.

The idea is spend the least money and get rid of them. There are work camps, work release, probation, and lets face it, selling drugs brings you into contact with the wrong people.

Time for an about face. In the old days he would have been told, join the Army.

It is obvious they do not want to hear your opinion.

Arrested in Aug., well, it takes several years to work through the courts, facing three to five, yea right, lawyer up, plead to a non felony charge with probation.

He is at risk, you are a liability. here you are, saying you know he is guilty, and it could be mistaken identity. Why are you trying to hang it on him?

Innocent until the conviction is upheld on appeal.

The thing to do is have a job, be going to school, and avoid being arrested while awaiting trial. Hardly anyone goes to trial, trials cost $100,000.

They say, we are going to chop your head off, you offer to pay a $5 fine for J Walking.

These things are settled. So first, you know nothing for a fact, you are not involved, and you sound like one of those people who say, No one has seen his ex girlfriend.

What you are saying here, you can be called to repete in Court, with no evidence, perhaps only the word of someone under arrest, trying to get themselves off, you are evidence. You know he was doing it, I doubt that. But when served with papers, you will have to go to Court, and testify. You are creating the only evidence against him.

All you know is he was arrested. Now you have him in TV jail being raped. You know nothing about the legal system.

I suggest you review what you have said, an delete everything you would not say in Court, under Oath. You were no where near, so it is all hearsay, and imaginary. The only way you could know, is if you were at the growing operation, witnessed drug sales, in which case, you should really shut up.

Innocent until proven guilty in a Court of Law, and upheld by the Appeals Court.

What you are doing is called bearing false witness. That is one of the Big Ten, and Dante had a special place for those people.

Repent!

Inventor, I don't know that he is guilty at all, but thanks for the advice -- I'm not a witness to anything. I just read a news article online, seriously.. I haven't lived in that state for years.. I just knew years ago, he liked to smoke pot occasionally, that's All and I told him he shouldn't do that. When I left home, he was only 5 years old and I didn't even know him, honestly... I only visited on a few occasions after that..

I AM concerned for my mother and what could happen to him in prison though... but I'm not involved.. Know one even told me anything about it.. The only thing I honestly know is what I read in the news, seriously... I thought he had quit smoking it years ago -- I had told him he shouldn't smoke it so much.

Thanks for warning me though that anything I could say could be misconstrued and used against him... I'm glad I'm far far away from all this.. After reading the news article, It just made him look guilty..but I don't know if he is or not, that's all I know, for real..