how do girls signal interest?
It depends what support mean! If it means he could do a training course or go to school to get a better job, yes, I would support my man.
If he was unemployed, I would support him IF he was actively looking for a job not just being lazy.
The only problem is that at the moment I earn enough to cover my expenses only.
It should work the other way around as well imo.
Ok, what about wanting a family? When a woman gets pregnant, she will need support. You can't blame women not wanting an unemployed man who can't support his children.
My aunt met her exhusband when he worked as a security guard earning peanuts, they lived in a garage that was converted to a small flat. They supported each other when one of them was without a job. But she enrolled to a school, she studied accountancy, she wanted a better life meanwhile her husband just wanted an easy life. didn't work out at the end.
By the way I am confused how exactly girls signal interest?
By the sound of the replies she signal interest by checking your bank account.
I knew I was doing something wrong!!
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If he was unemployed, I would support him IF he was actively looking for a job not just being lazy.
The only problem is that at the moment I earn enough to cover my expenses only.
It should work the other way around as well imo.
Ok, what about wanting a family? When a woman gets pregnant, she will need support. You can't blame women not wanting an unemployed man who can't support his children.
My aunt met her exhusband when he worked as a security guard earning peanuts, they lived in a garage that was converted to a small flat. They supported each other when one of them was without a job. But she enrolled to a school, she studied accountancy, she wanted a better life meanwhile her husband just wanted an easy life. didn't work out at the end.
By the way I am confused how exactly girls signal interest?
By the sound of the replies she signal interest by checking your bank account.
I knew I was doing something wrong!!

I mean in term of *forever* support, like so many men who are married to housewives.
You know, it becomes quasi-impossible to go back to the job market after being a housewife or househusnad for a long while; so you can't expect they will have a potentional of getting a job later.
As for the baby support- unless her work is not physical, she can still work while pregnant; other than that....the only thing that a stay-at-home dad can't do is breastfeeding when the baby is still infant.
And honestly, the wanting for a man with a job is something we hear it from a lot women who don't want children as well. When you see single women who are 40/45+ old expressing that, I bet having a baby isn't in their mind.
That's a very typical case when a wife becomes suddenly more successful than her husband while the husband isn't as ambitious.
For me, as a male, I find this strange, i mean since she started to work as an Accountant it means they have two incomes after her graduation, so there's less need for her husband to earn more because they're getting two incomes together; two incomes = more money = easier life = better life! - so why it's still a problem if her man isn't much of an achiever as her? but it seems ....her attraction is based on hypergamy (typical): she becomes more successful than her husband so her husband is no longer attractive to her, she can get someone better than him now .....I mean, an Accountant married to a "Security Guard"? Yuck, it's so unsexy and non-prestigious for her now, what her girl-friends are going to say in parties! married to a loser! /sarcasm lol . End of story. It's not really a matter of a real need for money.
So wanderlust, you as a female, can't you see the irony in this story? They remained together when one of them was working but she divorced him after she started to work? Or your brain is wired in a way that makes you see it as justified?
Life stories like those is why the Red Pill and MGTOW exist btw.
"That's a very typical case when a wife becomes suddenly more successful than her husband while the husband isn't as ambitious."
Call me naive and idealist but for me it looked like more of she was working on bettering herself, he didn't.
They grew apart as they no longer wanted the same thing.Last time I met her she was single, too busy to date as she was setting up some kind of business I didn't really understand.
Anyway. Yeah on the surface it looks like she didn't want him as she was more successful and earned more money by the end of their marriage but it was more of the clash of different views on life and what they wanted.
And since then my aunt always said I shouldn't get married unless I live with my boyfriend for 5 years minimum to get to know him who he really is and what was faking in order to get a woman.
Lifelong support? I don't think I would do it or want to do it.
First of all I am a frm believer of prenups and separate bank accounts.
Second, I stopped seeing a friend who got an amazing IT job, he started earning 6 times more than me. Obviously he wanted to go out to fancy places but I couldn't afford to keep up with him. I'm not a leech therfore I wouldn't even date a man who earns a lot more than me.
Third, and I am really sorry to say this here as I can see it's a very big problem on WP but I just can't respect a man if I have to give him money as he can't take care of himself.
Fourth, it's just me but I am very stingy with money, I don't lend any money , not even to family, so the thought of this makes me cringe already.
Fifth, in my world if you buy me a drink, I'll buy the next round, if you invite me for a dinner, I'll invite you next time.
50/50. Or let me rephrase that, I will give my 100% but I expect you to do the same. Anything less is a dealbreaker.
Yeah, I know I was told I was being unreasonable but this is me.
I meant that they are both unemplyed for certain times but luckily not at the same time, that's when they supported each other.
I agree with her as you are meant to evolve, you can't remain at the same state you left secondary school, you need to work on yourself.
Or do you agree with him wanting to live a life as a security guard, not wanting more than that?
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Call me naive and idealist but for me it looked like more of she was working on bettering herself, he didn't.
They grew apart as they no longer wanted the same thing.Last time I met her she was single, too busy to date as she was setting up some kind of business I didn't really understand.
Anyway. Yeah on the surface it looks like she didn't want him as she was more successful and earned more money by the end of their marriage but it was more of the clash of different views on life and what they wanted.
But he's an individual too, and some people are simply aren't ambitious, this is not a crime.
He's not obliged to become more successful just in order to keep his wife's based-on-hypergamy "love". Why did she marry him in the first place then? Security guards aren't known to be of the ambitious type honestly.
Can't you see the problem here? (You know what, I think you can't; because your female brain is so wired differently than mine, that's why. We are aliens to each other lol).
You know what, if men were like her, then a divorce genocide would happen across the world, because many men earn more than their wives. Why men don't think like that? Why men don't usually have this attitude regarding their wives' lack of success? Why don't they pressure on their wives to become more successful or else...divorce!
First of all I am a frm believer of prenups and separate bank accounts.
Second, I stopped seeing a friend who got an amazing IT job, he started earning 6 times more than me. Obviously he wanted to go out to fancy places but I couldn't afford to keep up with him. I'm not a leech therfore I wouldn't even date a man who earns a lot more than me.
Third, and I am really sorry to say this here as I can see it's a very big problem on WP but I just can't respect a man if I have to give him money as he can't take care of himself.
Fourth, it's just me but I am very stingy with money, I don't lend any money , not even to family, so the thought of this makes me cringe already.
Fifth, in my world if you buy me a drink, I'll buy the next round, if you invite me for a dinner, I'll invite you next time.
50/50. Or let me rephrase that, I will give my 100% but I expect you to do the same. Anything less is a dealbreaker.
Yeah, I know I was told I was being unreasonable but this is me.
That's....amazing! Excellent! I love the way how you think!
Now what the men world needs is more men who to adopt your mentality and treat women on this very same basis.
It would be amazing indeed. No more stupid arguments about money and who put more effort in that relationship.
And jsut to let you know, my ALL TIME crush is Sheldon Cooper and I do think his relationship agreement is genius!! !
And yes!! ! Men should stop wailing about the "evil, greedy" women. Women will take what they can. If they have to trade p**** for money they will=>marriage, because men think with their p#nis so they will put up with pile of horses**t just to have a woman around.
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I agree with her as you are meant to evolve, you can't remain at the same state you left secondary school, you need to work on yourself.
Or do you agree with him wanting to live a life as a security guard, not wanting more than that?
I am sure most men don't think like that, I see married women who remain secretaries for decades but I don't see their husbands complain about it or pressure them to evolve beyond that.
We men don't think like that. When a man loves and cares for a woman, he loves her regardless if she evolves or not income-wise, it's less conditional even with time. That's a one major difference between men's love and women's love.
Aliens...
I don't have any respect for men who will stay with an unmotivated woman. It just shows some insecurity as either you love that woman and then you are happy to give or you don't love her, that's when you start moaning that she is not pulling her weight as she should.
If she wants money/fame etc work for it.
I should add if a woman really loves you she will not take advantage of you. She will be happy to help and care about.
But most women have no idea what love is.
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If she wants money/fame etc work for it.
I should add if a woman really loves you she will not take advantage of you. She will be happy to help and care about.
But most women have no idea what love is.
It seems that it doesn't even occur to your brain that it's possible for a man to love a woman for qualities other than her income making capabilities.
A person is not just a money maker.
How I see it why men don't complain about secretary wives is the masculinity. Men feel more like a men if they can take of their family, they are the providers. It gives them the feeling of accomplishment.
Obviously a secretary is perfect for this. She is still kinda dependant of him. If he marries a CEO, he will feel less of a man.
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Obviously a secretary is perfect for this. She is still kinda dependant of him. If he marries a CEO, he will feel less of a man.
And if a female CEO marries a male secretary, what the typical woman would feel?
You can't say this is a masculinity problem only - your aunt is a live example of that.
Ah wait...that example never happens in life.

If she wants money/fame etc work for it.
I should add if a woman really loves you she will not take advantage of you. She will be happy to help and care about.
But most women have no idea what love is.
It seems that it doesn't even occur to your brain that it's possible for a man to love a woman for qualities other than her income making capabilities.
A person is not just a money maker.
The main topic was about money and how women dont want a man without a job.
As you said 'aliens' as it seems it doesn't occur to you that women would leave a less successful man because it doesn't make them feel like a woman, because people change over the time, even if they were in lov at the beginning, it changes as they experience things that have impact on how they view life and each other.
Less success is just a symptom, it's not the cause.
I'm going to sleep, I leave you men to talk about how girls signal interest lolz
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If she wants money/fame etc work for it.
I should add if a woman really loves you she will not take advantage of you. She will be happy to help and care about.
But most women have no idea what love is.
It seems that it doesn't even occur to your brain that it's possible for a man to love a woman for qualities other than her income making capabilities.
A person is not just a money maker.
The main topic was about money and how women dont want a man without a job.
As you said 'aliens' as it seems it doesn't occur to you that women would leave a less successful man because it doesn't make them feel like a woman, because people change over the time, even if they were in lov at the beginning, it changes as they experience things that have impact on how they view life and each other.
Less success is just a symptom, it's not the cause.
I'm going to sleep, I leave you men to talk about how girls signal interest lolz
Actually I know it, but my plan was pushing you to admit it, I win lol.
Ok, goodnight alie... I mean female human.
I agree with her as you are meant to evolve, you can't remain at the same state you left secondary school, you need to work on yourself.
Or do you agree with him wanting to live a life as a security guard, not wanting more than that?
"Meant" to evolve? Says who?
A true adult lives life by their own terms, so an unambitious person who who WANTS to stay a security guard forever is not at fault.
Is just unfortunate while many men wouldn't mind being a secuity guard forever, the amount of women willing to stay or be with him is much smaller.
The amount of men who climb the ladder of their career for there women and nt for themselves would surprise you.
If she wants money/fame etc work for it.
Well, I only want a girlfriend motivated in health. I don't care what Job she has if.none at all, dont care if she wants to live with her parents forever, etc.
I eat healthy, exercise, have good hygiene and dress well and take care of my mental health so these are the things I would want a girlfriend motivated in improving, not some standard designed by society like job, car, or if she lives alone.
Besides, of course men are going to want to date a woman less successful than them!
What if she gets a higher paying Job then turns around and divorces him for being too 'unambitious'?

You're right about a lot of men being insecure about dating a woman who earns more than him - that's because its a VERY REAL fear and these women often DO breakup with the man BECAUSE he earns less.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't
The only other fear is he will 'depend' on her so I agree with separate bank accounts strongly.
Couples pool their money together too much.
If I had a girlfriend, just lemme split The rent/bills if we live together, I won't depend on you for money, transportation (bus or my family can give me lifts), a home (live with family I do).
I NEVER ask for loans I'm amazing at saving my cash. My family always come to ME for LANs because they blow it on alcohol every weekend and think I'm a bottomles pit of money.
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