When's the last time you went on a date?
Um, no - that's something men here do to try to impress. It was lunch. I had a salad and water, he had appetizer, main course and several beers, then dessert and coffee. If anyone was the gentleman, it was the waiter: he let me order a side salad, gave me a basket of my favorite whole-grain nut & cranberry rolls on the house, brought me cappuccino when I'd turned down coffee etc. Why? Maybe b/c I was a regular at his normal place of employment, and I aways tipped well. Date Guy left a stingy tip, even by local standards; I went back later and gave the waiter five euros.
He had a very good time, aside from being non-plussed the waiter hadn't recognized him. Once it was clear to me that we weren't going to find common ground, and he'd demonstrated absolute lack of interest in anything real about me, I kept him talking about himself and gave him lots of compliments. I even told jokes I don't find remotely funny, once I figured out his sense of humor.
Would you rate him "good company" for broadly insulting American cuisine right at the beginning? He seriously worried I "might not appreciate the quality" of this little Italian place. Because I'm American! I said that was interesting, that there are probably people in every country who don't have the means for or exposure to variety, so knowing what they eat doesn't necessarily tell you about their capacity for appreciation. Turns out he'd grown up in a family where there was no appreciation for food, not much fresh produce other than potatoes and apples. So this Italian place was the pinnacle of his culinary experience. When I mentioned a little niche restaurant outside the city (I didn't make a direct comparison to where we were eating), he was skeptical. He turned up his nose at the house-made rolls and wolfed down flavorless white commercially-made stuff. I'm live-and-let-live, but when someone disses my taste in food I start noticing theirs.
Where did this come from? We were both customers. He was an orthodontist.
You might have missed the part where he tried to be sure I wasn't Catholic. When I turned that into a meta-level discussion, he got to the point that he was trying to be certain I wasn't a prude. I'll admit I had some fun making him uncomfortable. I said there was a wide range of what some people consider prudish and others consider taboo, mentioned some examples, and when I found one he said he'd never do, I said well for some people that's very mild, so they'd consider him a prude. Then I talked about the challenge of finding the right match and what approaches people try. I always asked what he thought before I stated my opinion, which I also phrased first as questions. Also said that women who seem prudish often just aren't having a good time b/c the man isn't doing what it takes to give her a good time. Without showing my cards, I definitely got the point across that I wasn't a prude and that I expect a good time in bed and elsewhere.
Sure, I pre-judged him, but I was open to being convinced I was wrong. At the garden center, he'd run into people he knew. Their child wanted someone to play with her in the sandbox, and he wouldn't go there at all, not even shoveling a scoop or two of sand into a bucket. I withheld forming an opinion on that, b/c many men fear they'll be suspected of something if they play with kids. (An acquaintance with a head injury is repeatedly interrogated by the police because he sings for kids on playgrounds. He likes to sing and read his poetry for people, and kids are more likely to listen.) At lunch it turned out Date Guy wants kids, but doesn't want to interact with even his own.
It was overall fascinating for me to see that I'd attracted someone who in so many ways was a clone of my ex. I mentioned "shorter" (which offended someone) b/c it was one of very few obvious differences. If he'd been the same height, I'd have thought he'd raided the ex's closet.
I realise there are a lot of women who're bad company, miserable, ungrateful, demanding, distant, negative; it sounds like you might have encountered too many of that kind. We're not all like that. Men complain that women "don't like nice guys." This was not a nice guy. There are soft-spoken men who look like pillars of the community, but they're not nice at all, they're soul-suckers. Wouldn't you rather women pick up on that and hold out for a genuinely nice guy?
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Last date I believe in January. Outcome: Had what I thought was a pretty good time, next time I talked to her, she said she really liked me as a friend, thought I was really cool, but just didn't want a relationship right now, and especially didn't want to ruin a potentially great friendship. Haven't talked to her or done much with her since. I believe she was going out with a different guy about a week later. Before that, who knows? I have done lots of things with various girls that I thought were rather date-like, though they seemed to have other ideas. That one was my one and only officially acknowledged "date".
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Quote:Haggardy "I belong to bad company, I sure don't wanna be in some good Company"
anyways, she gave him the benafit of the Doubts she had, gave him a mercyful good time, and in my opinion, she was a saint, as most women will jump at flaws like sharks for blood in water.
Um, no - that's something men here do to try to impress. It was lunch. I had a salad and water, he had appetizer, main course and several beers, then dessert and coffee. If anyone was the gentleman, it was the waiter: he let me order a side salad, gave me a basket of my favorite whole-grain nut & cranberry rolls on the house, brought me cappuccino when I'd turned down coffee etc. Why? Maybe b/c I was a regular at his normal place of employment, and I aways tipped well. Date Guy left a stingy tip, even by local standards; I went back later and gave the waiter five euros.
He had a very good time, aside from being non-plussed the waiter hadn't recognized him. Once it was clear to me that we weren't going to find common ground, and he'd demonstrated absolute lack of interest in anything real about me, I kept him talking about himself and gave him lots of compliments. I even told jokes I don't find remotely funny, once I figured out his sense of humor.
Would you rate him "good company" for broadly insulting American cuisine right at the beginning? He seriously worried I "might not appreciate the quality" of this little Italian place. Because I'm American! I said that was interesting, that there are probably people in every country who don't have the means for or exposure to variety, so knowing what they eat doesn't necessarily tell you about their capacity for appreciation. Turns out he'd grown up in a family where there was no appreciation for food, not much fresh produce other than potatoes and apples. So this Italian place was the pinnacle of his culinary experience. When I mentioned a little niche restaurant outside the city (I didn't make a direct comparison to where we were eating), he was skeptical. He turned up his nose at the house-made rolls and wolfed down flavorless white commercially-made stuff. I'm live-and-let-live, but when someone disses my taste in food I start noticing theirs.
Where did this come from? We were both customers. He was an orthodontist.
You might have missed the part where he tried to be sure I wasn't Catholic. When I turned that into a meta-level discussion, he got to the point that he was trying to be certain I wasn't a prude. I'll admit I had some fun making him uncomfortable. I said there was a wide range of what some people consider prudish and others consider taboo, mentioned some examples, and when I found one he said he'd never do, I said well for some people that's very mild, so they'd consider him a prude. Then I talked about the challenge of finding the right match and what approaches people try. I always asked what he thought before I stated my opinion, which I also phrased first as questions. Also said that women who seem prudish often just aren't having a good time b/c the man isn't doing what it takes to give her a good time. Without showing my cards, I definitely got the point across that I wasn't a prude and that I expect a good time in bed and elsewhere.
Sure, I pre-judged him, but I was open to being convinced I was wrong. At the garden center, he'd run into people he knew. Their child wanted someone to play with her in the sandbox, and he wouldn't go there at all, not even shoveling a scoop or two of sand into a bucket. I withheld forming an opinion on that, b/c many men fear they'll be suspected of something if they play with kids. (An acquaintance with a head injury is repeatedly interrogated by the police because he sings for kids on playgrounds. He likes to sing and read his poetry for people, and kids are more likely to listen.) At lunch it turned out Date Guy wants kids, but doesn't want to interact with even his own.
It was overall fascinating for me to see that I'd attracted someone who in so many ways was a clone of my ex. I mentioned "shorter" (which offended someone) b/c it was one of very few obvious differences. If he'd been the same height, I'd have thought he'd raided the ex's closet.
I realise there are a lot of women who're bad company, miserable, ungrateful, demanding, distant, negative; it sounds like you might have encountered too many of that kind. We're not all like that. Men complain that women "don't like nice guys." This was not a nice guy. There are soft-spoken men who look like pillars of the community, but they're not nice at all, they're soul-suckers. Wouldn't you rather women pick up on that and hold out for a genuinely nice guy?
lol I wasn't offended even if you mentioned it as a very negative trait and as a great lack . Nothing wrong in natural selection.
Nice try for teasing me btw but you have failed miserably.

Besides, it's not nice to talk that much behind people's backs , you dislike him , you hate you , you think he's loser, you can't stand him ...fine but why badmouthing about him that much on a public forum? he didn't treat you in a sinful way, didn't he?
Why you don't show him your post?
ps:Date the waiter
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Depends on the definition of "date". I guess if the term means going out with a girl who is single and without any other company with us (but not necessarily both having amourous intentions) then... well, 3 years ago
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A date????? I don't remember the last time
I sometimes get asked on dates, but they never seem to lead to second or third ones. The few relationships I've had have all started with friendships and naturally evolved to more, without having to go trough the formal dating game i.e. coffee or drink date, followed by a dinner date, then a movie night, then some home-cooking expected to be followed by some action, etc.....
Oh well! I'll just stay single!
dont go on a date just to dat you/we screw it up a lot. go out with people , groups etc for activites and the dates etc come secondary to this...thyey do come. as a secondary goal.
That's what I've been doing for the past 6+ years... still nothing except for a rejection and a host of lost opportunities stemming from the fear of rejection I picked up after being rejected the first time...
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Last night, I met my boyfriend at a venue where I played. Then he took me to a fancy bar down the street. There, we had a couple of fancy beers. Then we went back to his place, cooked and ate some potatoes, and went to bed. Does that count?
not to exclude a certain group of people, but if you have a girlfriend/boyfriend, hubby/wife, sex robot... mutant hooker etc... I merely think it is supposely single people without, partners, while i do apprieciate the...oh well me and the in-signicant went for a picnic or cooked potates and then had rauchy action later, single hopeless people, proably don't.
Last night, I met my boyfriend at a venue where I played. Then he took me to a fancy bar down the street. There, we had a couple of fancy beers. Then we went back to his place, cooked and ate some potatoes, and went to bed. Does that count?
Everyone is playing the fool now and pretending to not know what date means including native English speakers, how funny. Date is a stage before the relationship, date means meeting a potential mate. You don't date your bf since you are already in relationship with him , you hang out with your bf and do stuff with him.
When I joked about that, it was for a good reason.
Your comment was sarcastic , i was refering more to people in relations who are telling about their last adventure with their bf/gf in this thread.
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