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26 Aug 2014, 7:27 am

Not how to know when I'm in love. I know that one. Not how to show it- I think I am doing that right. But how to feel it when people love you back?

I never felt loved by anyone my whole life, and it's all I ever wanted. I assumed it was because no one ever did love me because there's something wrong with me and I just couldn't figure out what it was. But I'm thinking maybe it's not that... maybe people have loved me, and I just couldn't tell. It's sort of a crappy line of thought because that means I can't keep hoping to find someone who will love me... if I do find someone who loves me, I won't know it, and I'll keep looking.

I hate coming here and asking this- I don't like this forum very much. But everyone else just treats me like I'm some kind of an idiot and/or don't believe or understand me when I ask about it. So I don't know where else to go.


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26 Aug 2014, 7:35 am

LOL....what's wrong with this Forum? I find that it's a mixed bag--and I ignore the idiots.

About feeling loved.....hmmmm....that's a hard one.

Do you feel secure when you're around your family, your friends, your lover/spouse? Do you feel trust? I believe experiencing security/trust is essential if one is to feel "love."

Do you feel a commonality with a person? Does a person express a commonality with you? That's a part of "love," too.

Also: in a sexual/romantic sense, do you feel satisfied with being with your lover, in how your lover caresses you? Do you feel that sense of euphoria which accompanies intimacy--whether you're actually engaging in lovemaking or not? Truthfully, I haven't felt THAT in years. The last time was in 2000.

I think, by and large, that "feeling like you're loved" is akin to feeling like you could trust the person/people with whom you are in constant contact--and feel secure in their presence as well.



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26 Aug 2014, 7:55 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Do you feel secure when you're around your family, your friends, your lover/spouse? Do you feel trust? I believe experiencing security/trust is essential if one is to feel "love."

Do you feel a commonality with a person? Does a person express a commonality with you? That's a part of "love," too.

Also: in a sexual/romantic sense, do you feel satisfied with being with your lover, in how your lover caresses you? Do you feel that sense of euphoria which accompanies intimacy--whether you're actually engaging in lovemaking or not? Truthfully, I haven't felt THAT in years. The last time was in 2000.

I think, by and large, that "feeling like you're loved" is akin to feeling like you could trust the person/people with whom you are in constant contact--and feel secure in their presence as well.


What do you mean by "feel secure around them"?

I trust everyone to around the same degree- which is pretty far. But I trust no one completely, and to do so seems rather ridiculous to me.

Sexually? Depends on the women. Some are more attractive or better at it than others. Euphoria? I'm not sure, I can't recall that much detail, but I do tend to get bored quickly.


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26 Aug 2014, 8:20 am

To be secure around somebody is to trust them implicitly. You know the person's "got your back." Romantically, you feel "secure" in your person's arms, and a person feels secure in your arms. You just feel that harm will not come your way.

Of course you can't trust anybody "unconditionally"--but one could come mighty close.

I've experienced "euphoria"--so I know what I'm talking about here. You just have to experience it for yourself to "know."

Perhaps, if you start feeling less "bored," you might experience "love" more.

If someone senses that you're bored with them, there's no reason for that person to feel love for you. There's no incentive for anybody to extend themselves towards you in a manner which could lead to "love."

I used to get bored quite easily myself. After a while, it became "boring" to be bored; hence, I decided to explore why I was bored so often. I came to the conclusion that I had to employ more flexibility in my assessment of things--use my cognition to search for, and find an alternative to the boredom. Once I started doing that, my mind expanded, and my tolerance for boredom expanded.



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26 Aug 2014, 8:50 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
To be secure around somebody is to trust them implicitly. You know the person's "got your back." Romantically, you feel "secure" in your person's arms, and a person feels secure in your arms. You just feel that harm will not come your way.


Hmm I feel secure only when I'm alone; the closer I am to someone else the less secure I feel. And I trust no one, not even myself.

What is it that you would use to determine to trust / feel secure with someone?


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I used to get bored quite easily myself. After a while, it became "boring" to be bored; hence, I decided to explore why I was bored so often. I came to the conclusion that I had to employ more flexibility in my assessment of things--use my cognition to search for, and find an alternative to the boredom. Once I started doing that, my mind expanded, and my tolerance for boredom expanded.


Wouldn't you get bored watching the same movie every night, eating the same thing for each meal every day, listening to only one song for the rest of your life? Same thing with women's bodies- having the same one every time gets boring after a while, and I don't see a way around that.


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26 Aug 2014, 9:17 am

Women's bodies run the gamut, actually.

You should go to an art studio sometime. You'll see various types of women's bodies. Some seem grotesque--but even the grotesque is fascinating.



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26 Aug 2014, 9:22 am

Ive never felt loved either and struggled with this in relationships. In the past I felt unsure whether people loved me and felt unable to tell.

However Ive come to the conclusion that I would know if they love me enough (for it to be worth continuing the relationship). I now think those who I was unsure about did not really loved me or only had a small amount of love (or just desire).

I used to think I did not having the ability to recognize it but after long introspection I now am pretty sure my parental family does not love me, and Im also pretty sure some of my children do love me. I can see my children love me by how their faces light up when they see me and they want me to hug them and cuddle up together (where as my mum and my exes faces fell when they saw me lol)

So in the future I would look out for the person looking very happy to see me and wanting to spend time with me and wanting to be touching.



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26 Aug 2014, 9:36 am

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So in the future I would look out for the person looking very happy to see me and wanting to spend time with me and wanting to be touching.


Interesting. My parents are like this, but I do not understand why nor do I like it. Perhaps then it is a trust issue.


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26 Aug 2014, 9:39 am

Lotus makes a good point. Lotus flowers are beautiful.



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26 Aug 2014, 12:58 pm

I don't recall ever experiencing the sensation of "feeling" someone love me, except in a small way, my pets. I believe my father may love me, but I don't "feel" it. I think my siblings just feel a family obligation to maintain a relationship with me, and I feel the same way about them. I also don't think I am capable of having loving "feelings" for anyone. My mother passed away some years ago. She had some mental health issues that were never addressed. I don't think she was ever really capable of loving anyone, but at least, now we know about her mental health problems, I can understand and deal with that better. I have never sought out or received romantic attentions from anyone. I am solitary by choice, so I am not interested in that.

I also feel less stressed when alone, and greatly stressed when with other people, so I am a hermit.


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26 Aug 2014, 1:47 pm

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I don't recall ever experiencing the sensation of "feeling" someone love me, except in a small way, my pets.


Yeah, it's interesting that you mention that. I actually have felt loved, just not by a human. Animals, especially cats, I can tell. I wonder if that goes back to the fact that I trust no one- I have no trouble trusting animals because I know exactly what to expect from them.


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26 Aug 2014, 2:04 pm

Love is someting that you have. It doesn't really feel any different if someone loves you back or not. It is something that gives. Something you spread around. someting you feel, and it feels the same. You don't take it, and you don't get more if someone gives it to you. It is not money. This is not a bank account. Either you have it, or you don't. There are plenty enough people in the world that get treated like total crap. They can still love that person. When the day comes that you stop loving. That little love triangle ends.


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26 Aug 2014, 10:48 pm

Start off by learning to love yourself as much or more as you've felt love for others. When you love yourself, you'll know what it feels like to be loved & then have a baseline for comparison to be able to tell by others' words and actions if they do in fact love you.


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27 Aug 2014, 7:40 am

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Start off by learning to love yourself as much or more as you've felt love for others. When you love yourself, you'll know what it feels like to be loved & then have a baseline for comparison to be able to tell by others' words and actions if they do in fact love you.


I don't love myself at all. Like I said earlier, I trust no one... not even myself. I actually rather hate myself, and I have good reasons that I absolutely will not share (because if I did, everyone else would hate me too).


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27 Aug 2014, 8:09 am

Unless you feel the need to feed off of other peoples anguish, and dispare in order to fill up your supply, and make yourself feel good. You can love, and everything can be subject to change.


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27 Aug 2014, 9:23 am

B3dsage wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Start off by learning to love yourself as much or more as you've felt love for others. When you love yourself, you'll know what it feels like to be loved & then have a baseline for comparison to be able to tell by others' words and actions if they do in fact love you.


I don't love myself at all. Like I said earlier, I trust no one... not even myself. I actually rather hate myself, and I have good reasons that I absolutely will not share (because if I did, everyone else would hate me too).


Then perhaps you need to first learn to forgive yourself.


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