Girl won't date a Libertarian

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27 Feb 2008, 5:49 pm

So, I created a profile on a personals site, and messaged the local female who most matched my profile. She was nice about it, but essentially said that she won't date anyone Libertarian (one of the profile tests measures your politcal leanings). Only socialists. Who does that? She even admitted that socialism is a failure, but still feels strongly about it.

I'm guessing that she didn't like something else about me, maybe how I look or my age, and used politics as a polite cover. It bothered me, though, just like anything illogical bothers me, and the girl herself is secondary to this, now. Was she telling the truth? Has anyone else here experienced politics as a "deal breaker?"



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27 Feb 2008, 5:59 pm

Lmao.

Good on her. I wouldn't either.

Political viewpoints can often determine compatibility. Deal with it.


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27 Feb 2008, 6:21 pm

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Good on her. I wouldn't either.
Political viewpoints can often determine compatibility. Deal with it.


Interesting. Doesn't it seem a bit insular to only surround oneself with idealogical acolytes? I think it would be more fun to date someone I could debate with. Apparently politics is as personal and dear as religion. Not involving the supernatural, I've assumed that it's a less static arena - it can be shown that, for example, trade barriers are erosive and a poor idea, while there's no objective argument against theism.



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27 Feb 2008, 6:30 pm

I do think there's a good chance she was telling the truth. When a woman is that specific regarding "why not", I don't think she's lying.

Politics can be a major dealbreaker. Political views can reflect our priorities and how we expect to live our lives. For instance, I would never knowingly date someone who supports abortion or someone who does not support any programs benefitting the poor or disabled. Don't most people wish to have partners who have similar political views? We choose what we believe is most intelligent or virtuous. I like having a partner whose choices I genuinely respect and admire.

Of course we can also have a healthy amount of respect for an intelligent individual with opposite views, but I do not want to live with that sort of conflict--would you?


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27 Feb 2008, 6:31 pm

Somebody as fixed as that probably wouldn't be good for you anyway.



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27 Feb 2008, 6:50 pm

I think that the girl does have some logic behind her decision. Someone's political leanings tells something about what the person values and a bit of their thought process. I wouldn't really want to interact with someone who didn't feel the same way about things as I do. Like where I used to work there are alot of conservatives, not saying anything bad about conservatives in general, but these people just spouted out the retoric with poor information and misconceptions. Like many of them thought sincerely that it is right to stereotype people and that stereotypes are generally right, like saying that jews are cheap, black people are lazy, and all women can't drive and shouldn't have positions of power in government because she might have mood swings. If people think along those lines then I don't want to talk to them.



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27 Feb 2008, 7:37 pm

I've had people debate me about politics. It's one reason I don't like to publicly involve myself in it. If she can't respect your political view, then she's not respecting you. Same thing with how you look or your age. I know for me, I would be sensative to that. I guess because I'm a girl though. I'm sure there's someone out there for you. As for it being the deal breaker. There are some people who really wrap them selves up in these political ideologies. Just like their views on religions and race. I've seen people get hysterical about it. Just one of them things in life.



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27 Feb 2008, 9:02 pm

I prefer to be in a relationship with someone that agrees with my political beliefs. There's a good chance if they agree with the political party I support we will have certain values and beliefs in common. I think this is always important in a relationship.


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27 Feb 2008, 10:25 pm

well, I wouldn't be surprised at her cleaving to that...;) at a young age, people of both sexes can have the strangest preferences...;) don't sweat, plenty more where she came from...



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28 Feb 2008, 10:51 am

Great perspectives here. I guess I don't see a direct link between political affiliation and being a good/loving partner. How does my belief in Earned Income Tax Credits modulate my taking out the trash, giving a backrub, being honest, or listening to my spouse? Closing one's doors to a blanket group of people is prejudicial, for one, but more importantly, it's not productive. It's like judging job candidates on their sexual orientation. Choose the right metric for the role.

Beyond this, most people, while claiming to be profoundly impacted and attached to their political ideaologies, don't really seem to know or care much about them, in practice. Like religion, it's something many simply pay lip service to. A liberal and conservative in the same country are a lot more alike than two liberals from largely different countries. Our culture is the dominant lynchpin.



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28 Feb 2008, 10:57 am

gwenevyn wrote:
Of course we can also have a healthy amount of respect for an intelligent individual with opposite views, but I do not want to live with that sort of conflict--would you?


Well, not when it's framed that way. Of course, I would suggest that there are plenty of other things that two people can, and will, end up in conflict about beyond politics, so it's a false savings. Living with anyone produces its fair share of discord.



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28 Feb 2008, 10:58 am

Meh, nothing you can do. Women love their standards, even if they do seem stupid.

Personally I never got the whole political standards thing. Politics and Love couldn't be farther apart. And sure, she could have certain morals or ideals which she doesn't think you have based on your stance, but I still think it's really shallow.

I would never hold it against a girl to have views conflicting with my own. I like someone who can challenge my thought process, make me rethink what I know, and hold a deep conversation about those things with.

Who wants a puppet on their beck and call to simply regurgitate what they already think they know? Oh! That's right. Insecure people.


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28 Feb 2008, 11:12 am

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Meh, nothing you can do. Women love their standards, even if they do seem stupid.

Personally I never got the whole political standards thing. Politics and Love couldn't be farther apart. And sure, she could have certain morals or ideals which she doesn't think you have based on your stance, but I still think it's really shallow.

I would never hold it against a girl to have views conflicting with my own. I like someone who can challenge my thought process, make me rethink what I know, and hold a deep conversation about those things with.

Who wants a puppet on their beck and call to simply regurgitate what they already think they know? Oh! That's right. Insecure people.


There's a good reason right there. That was pretty disparaging and not at all respectful of the other side. This disagreement could just as easily been over politics. No way would I want a boyfriend or spouse who misrepresents my motives or calls me names, just because I have a different view. And like it or not, that's what happens.


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28 Feb 2008, 11:15 am

gwenevyn wrote:
There's a good reason right there. That was pretty disparaging and not at all respectful of the other side. This disagreement could just as easily been over politics. No way would I want a boyfriend or spouse who misrepresents my motives or calls me names, just because I have a different view. And like it or not, that's what happens.


Not sure I follow. Thought I was being pretty neutral, what'd I say?


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28 Feb 2008, 11:19 am

I wonder if the deeper motivation in having a "right minded" partner is more social than interpersonal. It would reflect poorly on someone if they had to tell their friends they were dating someone from "the other party." They would be put on the defensive, and don't want that. Much easier to do what is expected of you from your peers.



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28 Feb 2008, 11:23 am

jfberge wrote:
I wonder if the deeper motivation in having a "right minded" partner is more social than interpersonal. It would reflect poorly on someone if they had to tell their friends they were dating someone from "the other party." They would be put on the defensive, and don't want that. Much easier to do what is expected of you from your peers.


I'm sure that has a lot to do with it, actually. People don't like being singled out, not fitting in. It has a lot to do with what I said before about people being insecure. It's just a shame though the actions they will take just to part of the group.


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